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I found this today. I had forgotten that I had worked this up. Kevin posted a jam "in honor of j.j.cale". This one has a bit of that influence as well. It is an old song - written back when telephone companies meant something. Southern Bell ruled the SouthEast US. They turned into Bell South. I don't even know if they still exist... but that is where the "wink" in this song came from. Man! we're getting old fast! Remember when the phone hung on the wall in your kitchen? And you could only walk as far as the cord would let you??? MY SOUTHERN BELLE RealTracks: RealTracks in song: ~1846:Bass, Electric, CountryBoogieRootFive Sw 140 RealTracks in song: 1718:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm TexasBluesRockStraightBrent Ev 120 RealTracks in song: 848:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm CountryRockRiff Ev 120 (A:sync) RealTracks in song: 384:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm Rock Southern Ev 120 RealTracks in song: 1515:Guitar, Electric, Soloist CountryBrent Ev 120 RealTracks in song: 1169:Guitar, Electric, Soloist RockMediumBrent Ev 120 RealDrums in Song: BluesRockEv^1-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Open HiHat I did vocals and harmonies and played acoustic. Comments encouraged... floyd
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I love it Floyd!
Yeah, I remember all those things!
very clever word play throughout, and I like the way you put some of the rhymes in the middle of the sentence instead of the usual end of the sentence.
Instead of rambling on as I usually do, I'll stop here and see what others have to say...
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Cool track, Floyd.
Super lyrics and a great vocal performance. Very nice choice of RTs and a groove that really drives along. I loved the guitar sounds. The dialing tone at the end was inspired.
The mix sounds great on my main monitors, but on headphones the stereo placement seems a bit too accurate for my taste. Sorry, Floyd - I think that's the first time I've been less than enthusiastic about any aspect of your recording. Apart from that, a brilliant track!
ROG.
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Pat - I love when you ramble!!!
ROG - You have my attention...
I don't know what you mean by... "the stereo placement seems a bit too accurate"...
Can you explain, please (I'd like to take care of "less than enthusiastic"!)
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Floyd - now you have me worried that I've offended you!
On the big Tannoys everything sounds great, but on the 'phones I could place each instrument's position very accurately in the stereo field. It was like being very close to a very wide stage, so that sounds seemed to come from various specific places, rather than a blend of the overall band.
Now, I have to admit to using all sorts of unnatural stereo effects, particularly in my 80s stuff, but I felt that your track had the feel of a live band and needed a more conventional placement.
At the end of the day, I was being very picky and I'm beginning to wish I'd kept quiet!
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ROG,
No, no! I was not offended AT ALL! I truly welcome that type of critique!!!
If something isn't the best it can be - I want to know your opinion of that.
I can decide if it's valid and fix it or not.
I appreciate the honest opinion. If you knew where I've been, you would know "I can take it" and I welcome it!!!
So... thank you (I understand what you are getting at...)
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Hi Floyd,
you are telling an interesting story again.
Great vocals, harmonies and suitable RTs.
The song has got a lot of drive and it's fun to
listen.
ROG: "on the 'phones I could place each instrument's position very accurately in the stereo field." That's how it should be.
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Hi Floyd.
Thanks for the reassurance. Now that I know you're not offended, perhaps I can better explain where I'm coming from on this one. Reading Guenters comment I think I haven't made it quite clear.
Firstly, there was a time (just after the dinosaurs died out) when we didn't even check the mix on 'phones. Because so much music was listened to on radio, we checked on little cube speakers called Auratones, which you'd find in pro studios all over the world. Since the rise of the tablet, phone and MP3 player, the headphone mix has become as important as the main monitor mix. I even know people who mix on 'phones and then check on the mains.
Secondly, this particular mix. When I listen to it I hear a live band. If I'm in a hall about 50ft away from a stage which is 15ft wide, all the sound is coming pretty much from the same direction, plus there are reflections from the side and back walls which form the reverb. If I'm mixing this, I'd pan everything dead center and use judicious amounts of stereo chorus and stereo reverb/delay to provide a subtle stereo wash. To me, this is more natural than different instruments in different ears.
Guenter is absolutely right that the 'phones should pick up the stereo placement, it's just that I think I explained it badly before.
Of course, this still only holds up as one persons opinion and there are no rights and wrongs in this game. I just hope this makes things clearer.
ROG.
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Hi Floyd, I'm sitting here, tapping my feet, nodding my head and generally just rocking along with the music; I'm also smiling and laughing at your lyrics and thinking just how clever they are. You really have a gift for working with words! I love the play on meanings. All that being said, the musical setting is equally perfect!!! Back in second ... Ok! That didn't work. I've played the song through 4 times now in the hope that I'd find something to be constructively critical about. Sorry. I can't help out there. It all sounds EXCELLENT to my ears. It's another ...  ... from me. Heading back for another listen, now  All the best, Noel
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Floyd,
I love the song. The dial tone at the end is a nice touch.
Good mixing theory discussion. I'm taking it all in and learning from each of you.
SD
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Floyd,
Really enjoyed your lyrics, vocals and music.
Was listening on my "monitors", sounded great to me.
FWIW, I've been trying to set pans in own songs to emulate
instrument positioning. Unknown to me this was the right thing to do..
Who'da thunk!
Thanks for putting your heart into another great song in your collections.
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Hey Floyd,
Another excellent job! I don't really have any critique comments, It all sounds good to me.
I'm not having any issues with the mix, but I haven't listened through headphones.
Greg
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OK, ROG...
I re-mixed it and narrowed the field. Not dead center - that is a bit too radical for me. I've now had BIAB for a year. I think I did this around month 3 - like I said it got "lost" for a while. Before I posted it the other day I re-mixed it because the drums and guitars were wimpy. As I did that I noticed the wide field, but left it. So thanks for "callin' me on that".
So I'd be interested if this at least gets close (for you). Truth.
The discussion is good...
floyd
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Guenter - thanks for your support! I always appreciate your comments.
Noel - Thank you. Your comments are always so much fun to read..
SD - glad you enjoyed it.
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Frank and Greg - thanks. by the time you guys got to it, I had posted the re-mix. Thanks for the listen and the comments...
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Hey Floyd, I agree - the discussion is what's so good about this forum.
Straight away, let me say that I love the re-mix.
You know, I agonized for a long time about making that first comment, basically because the standard of your work is so consistently good and so well respected here. Then there's the fact that it's only an opinion in any case.
Then I thought you were probably big enough to take it and if you didn't agree you could shoot me down in flames! It's only a short time since I re-mixed one, myself, when public opinion here wanted the vocal louder and brighter.
I think it's great not having to work in isolation and having access to opinions from so many talented forumites. My respect for you is only increased by this exchange.
Many thanks, ROG.
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I like the Jj groove. A little bluesy country rock. Never a bad thing. Good vocal. Going back for another listen. Thanks for posting.
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Hi Floyd, great tune all around!
"on the 'phones I could place each instrument's position very accurately in the stereo field."
Well, I'm not sure if that was your intention, but if so you succeeded. Nothing wrong wit that IMHO. Being a matter of taste (I think), when you listen to my mixes, I try to do exactly that; place the melody and solos dead center and then try to imagine where my band is placed on the stage and pan it accordingly.
Regards
Mike B.
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Great! If Brooks and Dunn had not called it quits, this would be the perfect song for them. Are they one of your influences? I hear a lot of them in your work each time. Liked the dial tone on the end, nice touch. Thanks for sharing!
My TunesPsalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.
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Love everything about it . . especially for us older guys down south who actually did business with Bell South before the breakup.
Another top shelf performance!
Later,
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