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#572466 12/25/19 04:55 PM
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https://soundcloud.com/horst_hartung/didnt-i

****** Song Summary *************
Title: Didn't I 2020
File:Didn't I 2020.SGU
Key=Em , Tempo 152, Length (m:s)=5:30
No intro. 180 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 180. Repeat x2 choruses
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Song is saved with bar changes for Tempo, Time signature,RealDrums Changes,
Style is _FOLKRCK.STY (Folk-Pop Waltz Medium)
StringsCustom Synth is Hi-Q 049 01 Strings, Ensemble, Chamber Sforzando.tgs

RealTracks in song: 908:Bass, Electric, SmoothBallad Ev16 065
RealTracks in song: ~690:Organ, B3, Background Pop Ev 165
RealTracks in style: 898:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Strumming FolkRockWaltz Ev 150
RealTracks in style: 900:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming FolkRockWaltz Ev 150
RealTracks in song: 1462:Guitar, Acoustic, Soloist GypsyJazzWaltzGonzalo Sw 200
RealDrums [in style:RockModernWaltz^2-a:Sidestick, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride, Busy Kick

*******************ÿ

I played a 1960 Harmony Stratotone Guitar with Amplitube 3 (Crunchy Lead)

Meter Map:
-1=3/4
1=3/4
57=2/4
181=3/4
237=2/4


Tempo Map:

1=152
176=135
177=135
178=102
179=86
180=70
181=152
356=135
357=119
358=102
359=86
360=70
361=152



Here's a song I've been trying to record for years but have been limited by software. It uses 3/4 and 2/4 Time Signatures along with Tempo slowdowns in two places in the song.

I've had many problems using BIAB and RealBand 2020. I startes with BIAB 2020 to lay out the song structure and used Folk Pop Waltz Medium for the Style. It starts off in 3/4 time.

Didn't I By Horst Hartung 1972
3/4 Time Signature

Bar:#
09- You’ve learned, that life is hard,
17- Your dreams are now no more
25- And your heart has turned to stone
33- And now you want to come home

41- I told you when you left, that you’d find, the end

2/4 Time Signature
57- Didn’t I tell you woman, Didn’t I beg you to stay
73- And Didn’t I warn you woman, the day before you went on your way

Lead: Bar: 89 - 180

3/4 Time Signature
189- You felt the pain of life, your eyes have truly seen
205- Well I know how hard it’s been, for I too, have reached the end

221- I told you when you left, that you’d find, the end

2/4 Time Signature
237- Didn’t I tell you woman, Didn’t I beg you to stay
253- And Didn’t I warn you woman, the day before you went on your way

269- Awww Didn’t I tell you woman, Didn’t I beg you to stay
285- And Didn’t I warn you woman, the day before you went on your way

301- Didn’t I Didn’t I,
Didn’t I Didn’t I,

317- Didn’t I Didn’t I,
Didn’t I Didn’t I, Didn’t I Didn’t I, I said now Didn’t I Didn’t I,

333- Didn’t I Didn’t I,
Didn’t I Didn’t I, Didn’t I Didn’t I, I said now Didn’t I Didn’t I,

364- End

I only used the drums, and 690 Organ Real Tracks and did everything myself. I tried using a solo lead by Brent Mason and several Guitarists but it sounded like little blocks of caned lead and didn't flow. RealBand needs to improve the soloists realtracks cause they don't flow like real players.

I had to use two different drum tracks for the different time signatures....RealBand should use the Meter Map to do this automatically and should call it time signature Map instead of Meter Map. BIAB does this much better than Realband so when I imported my BIAB file into RealBand it got lost in the transfer. A real pain in the butt to do in RealBand. It also had a blank spot at bar 236 except for the drum track so I had to copy and paste using the Bar screen. RealBand needs to fix this....

The Tempo Chances were as follows:

Bar 175=152
Bar 176=135
Bar 177=119
Bar 178=102
Bar 179= 86
Bar 180= 70
and then Bar 181 goes back to tempo 152

It does this again at the end of the song.

I tried using the fill feature for the tempo map but it was just to much for Realtracks to handle.

I also had a problem with the Multiriff feature in Realband 2020...I couldn't get it to work????
So I tried playing my own solo and I suck at soloing....

RealBand has got a lot of things that need to be improved on. I don't know if anyone else has had the same problems....but it's just my two cents....



Last edited by horsthartung; 12/29/19 03:46 PM.

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Despite all the issues, good job getting your song done. I enjoyed my listen. This song has the feel and sound of the group Poco who managed to do some pretty complex arrangements in their day too.

Really good to see a post from you again. I always enjoy your songs.


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Nicely done - I thought it flows amazingly well, and was nicely catchy too. You managed to make it sound effortless despite the limitations you experienced.

Thanks for sharing smile


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Horst, I really enjoyed the entire delivery of this.

The time signature changes are perfect, the whole song takes us back to some of the best 70's music every delivered.

This is really, really good.


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Horst,
I like the way you handle the time changes- for all the issues you encountered ( everyone using RealBand has experienced meltdown moments as far as I can tell), the end result is a cohesive band sound.
The influences are clear and its still original- your vocal and harmonies on the 2/4 sections especially have lots of passion and the guitar solo sounds great.
I enjoyed this alot.

Robert

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As previously stated those time signature change transitions are very good! Nice guitar and bass chops! Your vocal is exceptional.

I really like this!


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Horst,
Cool piece of music! Vocals are excellent! To my ears, it came out great! Thank you for sharing.

Misha.

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Wow....

I thought everyone was going to jump all over me for complaining about some of the problems of RealBand but you all seem to really like the song....If there's anyone who can do a better solo lead than me...cause I really suck at playing lead, please let me know...I think it would be fun to jam and record with some of you.


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Pretty cool...
Especially considering the complexities of the composition.
Good job...

I'll bet you've got a lot of patience smile


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Hi Horst,

that's a truly remarkable piece of music - very, very cool and a great pleasure to listen to.

I know that sometimes that it doesn't really make any sense to mention the bands one is reminded of, but I couldn't help but think of Black Sabbath and also Moby Grape at some parts.

Great work on the guitars and the vocals.

Enjoyed this a LOT !

Happy New Year,

Stefan

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