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BackgroundSome may remember my last docu-song Bletchley Park, this one is a continuation of that WW2 theme and is dedicated to Viktor E. Frankl and all the survivors and non-survivors of the Holocaust. Viktor, like so many German and East European Jews found himself entrapped in the Nazi network of concentration and extermination camps, but amazingly he survived and wrote an epic account of some of his experiences in the camps and the meaning behind survival. He called his book Man’s Search For Meaning. In my opinion, this relatively small paperback which has been translated into over 20 languages and has sold over 12 million copies, should be required reading at the High School and College levels. Here are a few quotes. With unthinkable haste, people tore off their clothes. As the time grew shorter, they became increasingly nervous and pulled clumsily at their underwear, belts and shoelaces. Then we heard the first rounds of whipping; leather straps beating down on naked bodies.
The most painful part of beatings is the insult which they imply.
Those who have not gone through a similar experience can hardly conceive of the soul-destroying mental conflict and clashes of will power which a famished man experiences.
In spite of all the enforced physical and mental primitiveness of the life in a concentration camp, it was possible for spiritual life to deepen.
Months later, after liberation, I met a friend from the old death camp. He related to me how he, as camp policeman, had searched for a piece of human flesh that was missing from a pile of corpses. He confiscated it from a pot in which he found it cooking. Cannibalism had broken out.
Fundamentally, therefore, any man can, even under such circumstances, decide what shall become of him – mentally and spiritually. He may retain his human dignity, even in a concentration camp. Dostoevski said once, “There is only one thing I dread: not to be worthy of my sufferings.”Frankel died in 1997, and it is he that won the victory, not Hitler. Today, 5/6/24 is Holocaust Remembrance Day. The least we can do is never forget. This is my first baby-step attempt at doing vocals; way out of my comfort zone. My only consolation is that these vocals are intended to come from beyond the grave. Technicals80 BPM BiaB: RealTracks in style: 1856:Cello, Background PopCountry Ev 085 RealTracks in style: 677:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm RockBritDriving Ev 085 RealDrums in style:RockBritDrivingEv16^1-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride Me:Vocals: I have victory!/We have victory! Korg Keyboard: Synths/Leads, Clarinet, Strings, Tuba(high register) Roland Drum Pad (during the outro): Toms, Snare, Hi Hat, Cymbal Fender: Bass Guitar Recorded and mixed in Studio One Victory For Viktor
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Wow! Ambitious. Epic. Beautiful. In the immortal words of Roy Neary, "This means something. This is important." Nicely done indeed...
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BT,
Epic indeed! An amazing soundscape. Beautiful, creative and full of emotion. Extremely well done.
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Very impressive work, beautiful and moving!
I loved the melodic cello, and how the music swells in the last third of the piece - and also those bell-like tones at the end.
I read Frankl's book a couple of years ago, and my main takeaway was that the people in the camps who had a purpose, a reason to live, are the ones who survived.
You've composed a great tribute to Frankl, thanks for sharing!
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Wow! Ambitious. Epic. Beautiful. In the immortal words of Roy Neary, "This means something. This is important." Nicely done indeed... Thanks so much DC, glad it spoke something to you. The vocals were particularly challenging for me. Wasn't Roy's quote associated with mashed potatoes?
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Hi, Steve.
Thanks for the explanation - the introduction makes a lot more sense.
There's a good build to the music, and the quiet interlude in the middle. Sounds good!
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I think they call it "program music" where the music tells a tale & tat tales is written down for those listening to follow.
Interesting take...well recorded.
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A beautiful tribute Bass Thumper
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BT,
Epic indeed! An amazing soundscape. Beautiful, creative and full of emotion. Extremely well done.
Bob Hey Bob, I really appreciate your listen and feedback. I hope my bullfrog voice didn't detract too much from the overall message. We owe it to humanity to never forget; it could happen again. --Steve
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Very impressive piece from start to finish! The soundscape does a great job of matching your text. Nothing wrong with your voice BTW, sounded good to these ears.
Well done, enjoyed.
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I really like this piece, it seems to come straight out of the 70s prog rock era.
There are quite a few Pink Floyd influences, which is a good thing.
Lots of interesting things keep my attention throughout the song.
Very well done.
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I agree in that this is a very impressive masterpiece.
Great intro.
A bass solo - brilliant.
Outstanding dynamics.
Super strings and effects.
You best to date!
You have come a long way in a very short period of time.
Loved it.
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
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Very impressive work, beautiful and moving!
I loved the melodic cello, and how the music swells in the last third of the piece - and also those bell-like tones at the end.
I read Frankl's book a couple of years ago, and my main takeaway was that the people in the camps who had a purpose, a reason to live, are the ones who survived.
You've composed a great tribute to Frankl, thanks for sharing! Hey BobL, thanks so much. Yeah the cello in the intro is really nice, I think the artist that was recorded for that RealTrack is Matt Nelson, very talented. And the bell-like tones at the end is a voice called "Celesta" on my Korg keyboard. Off the top of my head I really don't know how they built that voice but if you're really interested, send me a PM and there might be a way to dive into the menus to find more info on it. I learned from DrDan a couple years ago that the sequence of notes played there is called a motif. You're absolutely right about Frankl's observing that those that had a purpose in life had a better chance of surviving the camps than those that didn't. I believe he was trained as a psychiatrist and developed the theory that the central human motivational force was the search for meaning in life; much different than Sigmund Frued's theory. Thanks again for the constructive/engaging comments. I'm just on my journey along with everyone else  .
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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WOW ... an epic journey. Very theatrical work.
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My goodness! What an amazing soundscape and epic musical journey.
I can imagine this playing in a cinema as the background music for a slideshow that documents Nazi concentration camps.
It's very emotive music.
I compliment you on your music skills, too.
Everything flowed seamlessly from section to section. It was an outstanding arrangement.
I really enjoyed going where you took me..
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Yes, I've read it. Cool subject, albeit unusual, for song, Steve. With the title I was thinking of Victa (Wooten). This is a wonderful interpretation (and I really love your bass). Very creaive indeed. There is majesty within the sorrow, spiritual within the oppression. Viktor's Victory!! It speaks and you created a special musical piece to raise the voice.
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Hi, Steve.
Thanks for the explanation - the introduction makes a lot more sense.
There's a good build to the music, and the quiet interlude in the middle. Sounds good! Many thanks David, this one took took much effort to arrange. Glad you liked it.
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Quite an excellent atmospheric instrumental piece.
Good job Bass.
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Steve,
An emotional piece of music - for an emotional story.
Thoughtful arrangement. VERY good production. And mix.
Your bass sounds great. LOVE that you are adding drums yourself - Well done!
This is impressive.
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I think they call it "program music" where the music tells a tale & tat tales is written down for those listening to follow.
Interesting take...well recorded. Thanks Ray. But I nor my AI assistant know what "tat tales" are. Did you mean something else? "The term “tat tales” does not have a widely recognized or standard meaning in English."
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Well produced ambitious piece.
Very well done and evocative.
Vocals sound fine.
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A beautiful tribute Bass Thumper
Laurent Thanks for the listen Laurent. Viktor and everyone else that went thru the holocaust are well deserving of a tribute. Consider reading his book if you haven't; it's not only educational on multiple levels but a fascinating and tragic glimpse into a world that we know little of.
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Wow, after reading the background of the song above, the intro is haunting and terrifying--totally sets the stage for what follows. It's a myriad of emotion that follows that opening, and each of them resonate. The mix and arrangement are excellent. You've outdone yourself on this one!!
My humble regards,
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Very impressive piece from start to finish! The soundscape does a great job of matching your text. Nothing wrong with your voice BTW, sounded good to these ears.
Well done, enjoyed. Thanks so much Dave, I always appreciate your reviews.
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Hi BT Steve,
You made a very impressive song, from a very dark era.
Hearing the sound of that train, followed by the barking of the German shepherds and the screams of people, gives you some chills.
You make a beautiful piece of music, with that choice of instruments. Really very good!
You made a very impressive song, from a very dark era.
Hearing the sound of that train, followed by the barking of the German shepherds and the screams of people, gives you chills.
You create a beautiful piece of music, with all those -sometimes- modern instruments. Really very good!
The darkest part, however, is that humanity never seems to learn from its history... So we need many more Victors to teach us life lessons. Maybe a lot...
Thanks,
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I really like this piece, it seems to come straight out of the 70s prog rock era.
There are quite a few Pink Floyd influences, which is a good thing.
Lots of interesting things keep my attention throughout the song.
Very well done. Hey Brain, I appreciate your listen and always your insightful reviews. You bet, Pink Floyd is one of my favorite bands, I like nearly all their stuff and I can't help but think that their style creeps into my work as an influence. Long live prog rock
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I agree in that this is a very impressive masterpiece. Wow Mario! To the degree that this might be a personal "masterpiece" is in large part due to folks like you who I consider mentors; folks who helped kick-start my musical journey back in 2020 with BiaB. Folks who produce creative works that make me say "Hmmm, I wonder if with a ton of effort that I too might be able to produce something that might speak to others." I guess this is called inspiration. Viktor Frankl has also inspired (and will inspire) millions around the globe, not only in his generation, but mine and I'm sure generations to come.
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WOW ... an epic journey. Very theatrical work. Thanks for the positive review Elliott.
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My goodness! What an amazing soundscape and epic musical journey.
I can imagine this playing in a cinema as the background music for a slideshow that documents Nazi concentration camps.
It's very emotive music.
I compliment you on your music skills, too.
Everything flowed seamlessly from section to section. It was an outstanding arrangement.
I really enjoyed going where you took me..
--Noel Hey Noel, I really appreciate the detailed review. "Section by section" is exactly how my brain works but the funny thing (for me) is that after I begin arranging a song it seems to have a life of its own and in a way I'm led down a path. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully mankind has learned something about itself from that time, but sometimes I wonder.
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Yes, I've read it. Cool subject, albeit unusual, for song, Steve. With the title I was thinking of Victa (Wooten). This is a wonderful interpretation (and I really love your bass). Very creaive indeed. There is majesty within the sorrow, spiritual within the oppression. Viktor's Victory!! It speaks and you created a special musical piece to raise the voice. Hey Marty, so far it's looking like 3 of us have read the book. I much appreciate the comment on my bass playing. With much hard work and hundreds of hours of listening intently to all manner of bass lines, I think I'm slowly grasping the fundamentals. But I always have some amount of internal tension between playing too sparsely and over playing. And who else but you could articulate " There is majesty within the sorrow, spiritual within the oppression." That is such a poetic summary of his book. Many thanks.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2024 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Quite an excellent atmospheric instrumental piece.
Good job Bass. Thanks David. I always appreciate your listens and feedback.
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Steve,
An emotional piece of music - for an emotional story.
Thoughtful arrangement. VERY good production. And mix.
Your bass sounds great. LOVE that you are adding drums yourself - Well done!
This is impressive. Hey Floyd, you know that you are one of my inspirational mentors here, so I really appreciate your reviews. Yeah, the Roland drum pad is turning out to be a great musical instrument investment, it's really a blast figuring out how I can complement the BiaB drummers. Many thanks for the kind words, --Steve
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B.D. expressed our first thoughts, "There are quite a few Pink Floyd influences, which is a good thing." Indeed.
Both of our fathers served in WWII and we have read a LOT of WWII history and watched multiple documentaries over the years.
Including of course many on the subject of your song.
Every aspect of the production, e.g., sound effects, voices, track choices and more render a tremendous tribute to those who lived thorough it, those who survived and the families of them all.
Well done in an epic manner!
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Background
Some may remember my last docu-song Bletchley Park, this one is a continuation of that WW2 theme and is dedicated to Viktor E. Frankl and all the survivors and non-survivors of the Holocaust. Viktor, like so many German and East European Jews found himself entrapped in the Nazi network of concentration and extermination camps, but amazingly he survived and wrote an epic account of some of his experiences in the camps and the meaning behind survival. He called his book Man’s Search For Meaning. Howdy BT.... That is quite a profound account by Viktor. You've put together a very somber, pensive composition here and it fits the song image perfectly. Tough subject to take on as it wreaks with such deep emotion. War is truly a hellish experience of the human condition but the holocaust is on a level all it's own. Heartbreaking is an understatement and words just seem inadequate to describe the horrors Well done!
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Well produced ambitious piece.
Very well done and evocative.
Vocals sound fine. Thanks Peter, I appreciate your review.
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Wow, after reading the background of the song above, the intro is haunting and terrifying--totally sets the stage for what follows. It's a myriad of emotion that follows that opening, and each of them resonate. The mix and arrangement are excellent. You've outdone yourself on this one!! Hey Deej, many thanks for the kind review, I'm glad it spoke something to you. We should never forget . . .
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Hi BT Steve,
Hearing the sound of that train, followed by the barking of the German shepherds and the screams of people, gives you some chills.
You make a beautiful piece of music, with that choice of instruments. Really very good!
You made a very impressive song, from a very dark era.
The darkest part, however, is that humanity never seems to learn from its history... So we need many more Victors to teach us life lessons. Maybe a lot...
Thanks,
Hans Hey Hans, I really appreciate your comments. I could not have said it better: The darkest part, however, is that humanity never seems to learn from its history
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Steve...a very moving piece of music and tribute to the valiant innocent of the holocaust...may we never forget...love the cello and the emotional angst it creates with those powerful sound tracks at the beginning...the movement is thought provoking the production is very well done...thanks for posting this lovely yet haunting tribute!
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B.D. expressed our first thoughts, "There are quite a few Pink Floyd influences, which is a good thing." Indeed.
Both of our fathers served in WWII and we have read a LOT of WWII history and watched multiple documentaries over the years.
Including of course many on the subject of your song.
Every aspect of the production, e.g., sound effects, voices, track choices and more render a tremendous tribute to those who lived thorough it, those who survived and the families of them all.
Well done in an epic manner!
J&B J&B, your comments and the service of your fathers are much appreciated. My dad drove a battle tank in Korea. I'm glad you guys like Pink Floyd, they're one of my favorite bands and I'm sure I'm influenced by them.
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Howdy BT....
That is quite a profound account by Viktor.
You've put together a very somber, pensive composition here and it fits the song image perfectly.
Tough subject to take on as it wreaks with such deep emotion.
War is truly a hellish experience of the human condition but the holocaust is on a level all it's own.
Heartbreaking is an understatement and words just seem inadequate to describe the horrors Hey chulaivet, every time I see the word "pensive" I have to look it up, I just can't keep that word in my head for some reason  The holocaust certainly is on a level all its own. And Viktor is not only victorious but a hero for writing a book we all can learn from; what a legacy he has. Thanks for the listen and kind review. It is you sir, that is pensive
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Hey chulaivet, every time I see the word "pensive" I have to look it up, It is you sir, that is pensive Hey BT.... Ha....good catch. Admittedly, the large majority of my song writing drivel has subject matter that is pensive in nature. My next one (shortly) strays from pensivity (oh jeez....did I day that) into the lighthearted with some levity category. I have difficulty writing those types of songs. On a different note: after 7 decades, I think I've finally memorized how to spell rhythm correctly! Anyway, you're welcome amigo. Back to topic.
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Brilliant! The production encourages the listener immerse himself into the musical story. Excellent work on the instruments you played. The backstory was helpful and I've added that book to my reading list.
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A timely tribute, respect and power to you. Stay strong.
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Steve...a very moving piece of music and tribute to the valiant innocent of the holocaust...may we never forget...love the cello and the emotional angst it creates with those powerful sound tracks at the beginning...the movement is thought provoking the production is very well done...thanks for posting this lovely yet haunting tribute! Thanks so much for the listen. And very well put "to the valiant innocent of the holocaust...may we never forget". And I agree, the cellist on that RT is very talented. I wish I had half his skill.
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We must never forget... yet we find ourselves having forgotten.
Thank you for reminding us that we should never forget lest we go down that same road again.
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