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>>> "In terms of “authenticity” as Floyd mentioned, I believe I was at my most authentic when I was 12 years recording with my Yamaha acoustic onto a Silvertone cassette player from Sears." <<<
>>> "Would the 12 year old kid have written this song? If not, I guess that's what you're trying to rediscover." <<<
To learn if 12 year old David would have written this song, we need to start exploring by having David define "authenticity".
David is a talented songwriter, musician and singer. He has the technical tools available from his DAW and top quality session music from BIAB to produce a professional grade backing track to any song he creates. What in the chain of writing, playing 'live', singing and adding studio quality backing tracks does he think is bleeding authenticity from his songs?
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Hey Charlie,
I played the latest version of Bible for some friends at a party last night, and they started dancing around the house (no kidding) and told me it was "fun" and not to touch it--so I guess I will leave it alone for a week.
In terms of "authenticity"--I know that when I listen to some stuff like Coldplay's "The Scientist"--I can tell Chris Martin was in a trance when he wrote it. It comes across as pure. Gives me goosebumps. So I am writing a lot on the piano now and trying to go into that trance-like state where the song comes first and the production comes second. For people who want to "feel" a real song I don't think you can manufacture it. It has to come from the soul--almost in a trance.
Commercial music on the other hand is manufactured.
And Bible was manufactured for sure, once I had the idea, to see if I could write a pitchable commercial song in the hardest market to pitch in--country. Am I getting close. They say so in Nashville. Is it David. No. Absolutely not. It is and was an experiment.
What is "David music?" Not sure. I am still inventing that--but I do know I want to get back to the almost trance-like state I used to write in when I was a kid. I think I got a lot closer on She Takes Me Away, which was on the forum this year.
I don't think anything is necessarily "bleeding" authenticity other than taking too much advice from industry folks on what I should do and who I should listen to on the radio. That doesn't usually work for me. I don't really like what's on radio all that much. My idol is Bob Dylan, who clearly doesn't give a d...if people like his music or not, and to my mind that is what makes him great. All I know is that I want to go to that place where Bob and other people like him go (Joni Mitchell also comes to mind) which is a place of absolute freedom and musical purity. How do you get there? I don't know. I guess you just keep walking and playing.
And Charlie, I have learned A LOT from you and Herb and Floyd and others on production lately--stuff like compression. The latest version of Bible sounded exactly like radio when I played it on the home stereo. It really pops production-wise. I compressed the living you know what out if it.
I know that is a lot of stuff.
I guess what I am saying is I take music very seriously, I think all of it is poetry, and I am still on a poetic journey.
I have no idea where I will end up but I am loving every minute of it.
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Hits are an odd thing. My only personal encounter with a hit was in 1972 hearing Pure Prairie League's "Aimee" off a 1/4" stereo reel to reel taken from the the studio master before it was released to the public. Similar to leaving the studio with a CD copy today.
Everyone who heard it early on seemed to know it would be a hit. They spoke about it as if it were a hit.
After it was released in 1973, Aimee did not shoot straight to the top of the charts and my recollection is it was released a 2nd time in 1975 before charting and I think it's highest rate on the Billboard chart was #27 but it still became a classic r&r standard.
Similarly, Sheriff's "When I'm with you" didn't become a number one hit until 4 years after it was initially released and the band had long broken up.
"Get Together" was released by the Kingston Trio in 1965, the Wee Five in 1967, Recorded and released in 1967 by The Youngbloods.
Only after being used in 1969 in a PSA and gaining new popularity, did "Get Together" become a huge hit and peaked at #5 on the Billboard charts for the Youngbloods.
There are various factors that make a hit and the above history indicates to me, that timing is one of the major factors.
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But if you do what this book says
It will keep you out of hell
That line tickles me! This is a cool song!! I listened to the first one and liked it. I think this version is a little better. I like the way you process the vocal-reminds me of Springsteen's "Lucky Day". Really good job on this! Take care. Greg
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