|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Hi guys, https://soundcloud.com/planobilly/cyber-space-rough-draft-2Cyber Space You Look So Cool You Look So Hot Are your Just A Cyber Bot? You Make Me laugh You Make Me Cry You Make Me Sad And I'm Wondering Why I'm Living Here With You In Cyber Space --------------------------------- Your On My Phone Your In My Head Facebook Telling Everyone I'm Dead You Make Me laugh You Make Me Cry You Make Me Sad And I'm Wondering Why I'm Living Here With You In Cyber Space ---------------------------------- XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Hear Me Cry Out On The Twitter Feed You Make Me laugh You Make Me Cry You Make Me Sad And I Wonder Why I'm Living Here With You In Cyber Space ---------------------------------- I can't live without my phone don't you dare leave me alone You Make Me laugh You Make Me Cry You Make Me Sad And I Wonder Why I'm Living Here With You In Cyber Space ------------------------------------ I took out the line that could be considered controversial. Metal Bass line from BB Some rhythm guitar from BB Drums are just reference at this point Vocal is seriously over driven I wanted a simple guitar solo but perhaps this one is too simple??? Should I create a guitar solo bridge line and then create a ending with a ad lib vocal line? Thanks, Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,317
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,317 |
Plano..... Since you said it's a 'rough draft'  here's my take after 2x listening. 1) No....solo is not too simple. I wouldn't overthink that. 2) Drives along very well (as in ZZTop/Foreigner) and good delivery/performance of your vocal....it works. 3) I like the 'cyberspace' premise/concept. 4) Losing that unnecessary verse....that was a good cull. 5) Hmmmm....the into is 14 measures and about 30 seconds long. I know the song is only 02:40 but if I were asked and my opinion had any merit I think it would sound better with a 4 measures intro. Those 30 seconds can be made up by repeating a verse/playing the chorus one more time/vocal repeats during end vamp. This is a well done rocker, a dance tune to get people on the floor doing good for bar. There's nothing wrong with it as is....enjoyable listen. These are just my opinions, I do not expect you agree or implement my thoughts. It's a good cut and YOU are the only one that needs to be pleased with the end result. Back to it....
Last edited by chulaivet1966; 02/24/19 12:23 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,362
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,362 |
Hi Billy,
I think it is a nice, rocking track, which I enjoyed very much listening to. I think the guitar solo is fine and definitely not too "simple".
You did very well with this song!
Thank you for sharing!
Will
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Thanks guys,
For what ever reason this has been a difficult song for me to do. I can do country tunes with BB without any problem.
The intro is too long. I for sure agree with that. I may write another verse as the song is pretty short.
This has worked in a bar live. We used the original lyrics without any feed back from anyone. But...the song was played in the middle of several back to back tunes. That kinda runs everything together and people don't have time to consider what the lyrics are. When Vic played the guitar solo it was much more complex and many more notes.It sounded fine...just not what I had in mind.
There are some places in the BB bass line that I will change with Melodyne but that is not a big issue.
After the guys in the band hear this, it will be fun to see what they do on the next go round.
Thank all of you for the feed back.
Cheers,
Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,024
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 6,024 |
Billy, Pretty good for a draft! Nice vocals and overall feeling/mix. Beefy guitar solos! If it was me, would not worry about "controversial" line for this rocker Thank you for posting! Misha.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Thanks Misha,
I appreciate you taking the time to listen.
Cheers,
Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,944
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,944 |
The guitar solo sounds good... The over-all direction of the song is flowing well... Your feedback from the bar crowd is your best bet... Not necessarily what they say but how the react to the song... Anyway it sounds good to me & I'm not drinking... yet 
Jim
†=☮&♥
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,599
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 6,599 |
The solo sounds good enough though you ought to tweak the delay/reverb FX so that it sits with the other instruments better.
It does start like a ZZTop song & chuggs along well.
The bass is almost invisible - it's there doing the job but not interesting or propulsive.
The vocals are fine too - same tweaks as solo needed.
My only real issue is with
"I'm Living Here With You
In Cyber Space"
As it reads tagged on and doesn't really go anywhere
Even I spoken line/aside between it & the next line would be good like
I'm Living Here With You
In Cyber Space
Man, I'm such a disgrace"
or SOMETHING.
Cool stuff for a draft anyway.
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414 |
This is really impressive for a rough draft! Loving the classic hard rock vibe on this. Very reminiscent of ZZ Top, as rayc said. The tune almost demands your attention, and your vocals fit it perfectly. Looking forward to see where you go with it, if you continue to build. Thanks for sharing
Cheers,
Deryk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,742
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 7,742 |
Very cool song. I think the guitar was excellent compliments the song really well. Excellent vocal and cool driving back track.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,946
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,946 |
This is a really fantastic first try with Band-in-a-Box! Very impressive. I really love what you did with your song ( and the kitty playing the drums is a nice touch too! ).
Cheers,
Ember
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Thanks guys for all the feed back. There have been six or seven versions of this in the process of trying to develop the song. In some ways I like the latest version and in some ways I like the more striped down version. I had a friend of mine do a drum part live but I did not like it much. I will have to create one myself. Everything has become too over driven. I don't have a studio where I can play guitar through a amp of the type I need to get the sound I am looking for. Using VST's just will not work the way I want. I added a couple of verses and created a ending of sorts with the vocal. I still need to cut four measures out of the intro but that does not really change anything much. Longer intros give some space to get everything working right when playing live. Thanks to everyone again for all the feed back. It is really good to read what others think and consider what they are saying. Some where near a final...lol https://soundcloud.com/planobillydfw/cyber-space-final3 Thanks, Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,712
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 14,712 |
Sounds like a good rocker with a hint of ZZ although not bluesy. Regarding the long intro...hey, it's rock and rock is guitar centered! Or it should be The guitar performance is fine...to my old ears it could sit a little more forward in the mix and this is often achieved with a little more reverb. The bass could cut through more...do you use CLA Bass? FWIW, etc. It's a fun tune! J&B
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,087
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,087 |
Billy,
A good rocker. Nice "drive".
It is very "guitar heavy". The guitars all sound good, but they cover up most other elements of the song/mix.
At lower volumes it is really telling.
The drums are completely buried - and they ought to be a HUGE part of the sound of this style of music.
The bass is difficult to hear - and ought to be "punchy and distinctive" and "driving".
The vocals are processed in a way that they "get lost" - especially as the song opens. They could use some "clarity". Cranked up, you can tell they are really nice rock vocals, but at low (to mid) volumes, they do not cut through the mix the way they need to.
Terrific driving guitars and solos...
fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Hi J&B,
The truth is I am not very skilled at using all this DAW software. I sometimes like some of my song ideas. I like the way they sound live but I don't really have the skill to use the DAW software to best advantage. And for sure BB is still very difficult for me to use unless I create the idea in BB to begin with.
The bass came out of BB with some modification with Melodyne. I should have converted it to midi and used Trilian or just played the bass live DI. There are certain things BB does super well. Piano for example. Other things I struggle with.
I find certain styles much less of an issue to deal with in BB. Country is the easiest for me in BB. Rock is probably the hardest.
It would be interesting if someone would take all my raw stems and mix the song.
At any rate, thanks for the feed back.
Cheers,
Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Thanks Floyd,
One of you guys are need to mix this song for me!! I hear what you are saying and agree, I just don't know how to get there.
Thanks,
Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,087
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,087 |
Thanks Floyd,
One of you guys are need to mix this song for me!! I hear what you are saying and agree, I just don't know how to get there.
Thanks,
Billy
Hey, Billy... If you are "serious" about that, it might be a fun idea to set up a "mix contest" here on the forum... I think it should go under the Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production forum. You could upload your stems to either Dropbox or Soundcloud (you could group them together as an "album" and delete them later once it all done) and set them to "public downloadable" so that anyone who wanted to try could download them and mix them. They could be WAVs or mp3s - (for a rock song like this I don't think it would matter which) Hopefully folks would take a few notes along the way of how they process them, what levels comparatively, plugins, etc. Then, perhaps, in the same thread, supply a link to their final mix so we could discuss what we heard from one to the next. We might ALL learn something from that. (In the friendly, supportive atmosphere that this forum is)... fj
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Hi Floyd,
That would be great. I could put all the stems in Dropbox and post a link. It will take me a bit to get back to the raw stems.
Also I have no issue with anyone doing what ever they like to the song.I am not at all sensitive to criticism, if fact I welcome it.
Thanks,
Billy
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,087
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,087 |
Hi Floyd,
That would be great. I could put all the stems in Dropbox and post a link. It will take me a bit to get back to the raw stems.
Also I have no issue with anyone doing what ever they like to the song.I am not at all sensitive to criticism, if fact I welcome it.
Thanks,
Billy I think it's a cool idea. Could be a LOT of fun! I would suggest that you include the BIAB SGU file, too. That way, folks could try out different BIAB RealDrums (in particular). (and perhaps add flavorings that they might think are needed?)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,537 |
Cool Floyd,
The there is a link to the stems on Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production forum.
New location, new environment, new music coming soon
Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Generate Lyrics for your Band-in-a-Box songs with LyricLab!
Need some lyrics to complete your Band-in-a-Box song? LyricLab is here to help!
LyricLab (by Joanne Cooper) is an AI-powered tool designed to quickly create lyrics and chords to fit your music. Just enter a rough idea of your lyrics, and let the AI bring them to life. Once you're happy with the results, simply import the LyricLab file into Band-in-a-Box® 2024 or newer. From there, you can pick your style and generate melodies to match your song’s chords!
Learn more about LyricLab here!
Watch the video.
Band-in-a-Box 2024 Italian for Mac is Here!
Ci siamo dati da fare e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 222 RealTracks, nuovi RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, due nuovi set di "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 e altro ancora!
Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Mac Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK & 7, Xtra Styles PAK 17 & 18, und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 French for Mac® is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 apporte plus de 50 fonctions nouvelles ainsi qu'une importante de contenus nouveaux à savoir : 222 RealTracks, des RealStyles nouveaux, des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes d'Instruments, des Prestations d'Artistes, des "Morceaux avec Choeurs", un Set 3 de Tracks Jouables, un Set 2 de RealDrums Jouables, deux nouveaux Sets de "RealDrums Stems", des Styles XPro PAK 6 & 7, des Xtra Styles PAK 17 & 18, et bien plus encore!
New! XPro Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 7 with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 50 RealTracks and RealDrums that are sure to delight!
With XPro Styles PAK 7 you can expect 25 rock & pop, 25 jazz, and 25 country styles, as well as 25 of this year's wildcard genre: Celtic!
Here's a small sampling of what XPro Styles PAK 7 has to offer: energetic rock jigs, New Orleans funk, lilting jazz waltzes, fast Celtic punk, uptempo train beats, gritty grunge, intense jazz rock, groovy EDM, soulful R&B, soft singer-songwriter pop, country blues rock, and many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 7 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box 2024® with XPro Styles PAK 7! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Watch the XPro Styles PAK 7 Overview & Styles Demos video.
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2024 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box version 2024 is here with 200 brand new styles to take for a spin!
Along with 50 new styles each for the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, we’ve put together a collection of styles using sounds from the SynthMaster plugin!
In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 18 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Expand your Band-in-a-Box 2024® library with Xtra Styles PAK 18! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 18 here.
Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 18 Overview & Styles Demos video.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 18 requires the 2024 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box version 2024 is here with 200 brand new styles to take for a spin!
Along with 50 new styles each for the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, we’ve put together a collection of styles using sounds from the SynthMaster plugin!
In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 18 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Expand your Band-in-a-Box 2024® library with Xtra Styles PAK 18! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 18 here.
Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 18 Overview & Styles Demos video.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 18 requires the 2024 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums65
Topics82,911
Posts753,157
Members39,028
| |
Most Online3,932
Nov 19th, 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean