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Today an update to BIAB was announced: An update is available for Band-in-a-Box® Version 2019
Download the Band-in-a-Box 2019 Build 633 update (200 MB) Wonderful, great to see. But, with each update comes the obligatory statement: This is a cumulative update. VST DAW Plugin update to 1.14.2 (April 16) is included. I take this language to mean that there has been no change to the VST DAW Plugin since April 16. I feel like a lone voice crying in the night, but it sure would be nice to see more love shown to the VST DAW Plugin. Certainly there is room for improvement, even if minor adjustments to increase the functionality and workflow friendliness. Am I alone on this?? Can I get an AMEN?
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AMEN brother !
Adar has been working on the Mac version with new features added and bugs fixed so they should all be transferred to the Win version soon.
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Today an update to BIAB was announced: An update is available for Band-in-a-Box® Version 2019
Download the Band-in-a-Box 2019 Build 633 update (200 MB) Wonderful, great to see. But, with each update comes the obligatory statement: This is a cumulative update. VST DAW Plugin update to 1.14.2 (April 16) is included. I take this language to mean that there has been no change to the VST DAW Plugin since April 16. I feel like a lone voice crying in the night, but it sure would be nice to see more love shown to the VST DAW Plugin. Certainly there is room for improvement, even if minor adjustments to increase the functionality and workflow friendliness. Am I alone on this?? Can I get an AMEN? Another Amen! I actually have given up on it. I can not see, at least in today's configuration, how it would help my workflow. But, as you all know, lately I have little music time and in fact what time I do have I mostly use on these great forums.
Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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Mario, you should be able to have as many midi tracks as you want now.
You could have one instance of the BB plugin on one track, this will send all the midi tracks/ channels to other tracks in the DAW with different Virtual Instruments on them,
now on another track you could have another instance of the BB plugin with more midi tracks sending to more tracks with virtual instruments.
Now you could have another instance that generated up 7 (or more) of the same midi track or different ones (I think they are going to add MultiRiffs for Midi also) and add a re-channel midi fx so all the channels will get sent to the one virtual instrument, then you just solo each track one at a time til you find the one that fits best.
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Mario, you should be able to have as many midi tracks as you want now.
You could have one instance of the BB plugin on one track, this will send all the midi tracks/ channels to other tracks in the DAW with different Virtual Instruments on them,
now on another track you could have another instance of the BB plugin with more midi tracks sending to more tracks with virtual instruments.
Now you could have another instance that generated up 7 (or more) of the same midi track or different ones (I think they are going to add MultiRiffs for Midi also) and add a re-channel midi fx so all the channels will get sent to the one virtual instrument, then you just solo each track one at a time til you find the one that fits best. Yes a very good point. However the last time I used the VSTi every time I drag and drops MIDI to my DAW the VSTi also wrote wavs to my C drive. I then had to remember to delete those wavs. Is this still happening?
Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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I have a feeling that we will get an update soon
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2024, Realband, Reaper, Harrison Mixbus 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Yes a very good point. However the last time I used the VSTi every time I drag and drops MIDI to my DAW the VSTi also wrote wavs to my C drive. I then had to remember to delete those wavs. Is this still happening? Yes but an option to gen only midi is on the ToDoList, I put another request in, so hopefully next release.
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Yes a very good point. However the last time I used the VSTi every time I drag and drops MIDI to my DAW the VSTi also wrote wavs to my C drive. I then had to remember to delete those wavs. Is this still happening? Yes but an option to gen only midi is on the ToDoList, I put another request in, so hopefully next release. Thanx for the info.
Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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BIAB VST ( both windows and Mac ) should be getting **all ** the love.
Maybe I'm biased. but for anyone who uses a DAW a lot - this has. to be the case.
Unless one is just using BIAB as a practice tool or jazz education aid..........
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It's good with the plugin they are identical so when it's all settled down they should get the same features and updates at the same time.
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Unless one is just using BIAB as a practice tool or jazz education aid.......... Just a guess from years of observation around here, that's about 90% of users. Going into October it's all about the new Biab 2020. Staff that just finished Mac 2019 I would think are moving over to Windows 2020 but they usually continue to do smaller updates. Whether that could include the VST, who knows? Bob
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Amen here too.
I actually only paid up for the 2019. upgrade because of the announcement of the Mac version of the BIAB plugin.
Yet I find myself unable to use this plugin at all due to all the limitations and bugs in this so far.
The chief limitation being of course the inordinate time it takes to do a regenerate after any change to an arrangement.
This is because of the render-to disk issue of course.
if I'd have known that this was going to be yet another promise of new functionality that simply fails I'd have kept my money.
Big Sur, Mac Mini i7 2018, 64GB RAM 2TB SSD
Yamaha PSR SX 900, Cubase, Ableton, UNIFY, OPUS ORCHESTRATOR, MASCHINE, Vienna Ensemble Pro ,Audiofuse, L6 HELI, KOMPLETE, Komplete Kontrol 88
Lockdown beard, podgy face, beer belly, bald patch ... yadda yadda
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New in 2020 BIAB VST
Besides a boat load of new RT and Midi Content, this item catches my immediate attention.
• There are over 40 enhancements to the Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin that works directly inside your DAW (Cakewalk, Reaper, ProTools, PreSonus, etc.) to generate styles, RealTracks, RealDrums, Multi-Riffs, and more. These include Audio Harmonies, Customizing Tracks, Bar and Song Settings and more. Audio Harmonies, RealTracks sound improvements (gap filling, thickening).
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If it’s ready for prime time this sounds good. I know there was an attempt recently to add some upgrades to version 1.14.2 as a beta release that came out 1.16.12 Sadly it was a train wreck, and didn’t work on multiple platforms. Most who testing it had to roll back to the earlier version. My guess is that that was scrapped due to time restraints, and all efforts were diverted to version 2.0.
I was hoping some of the promised updates would be added to the first version, however I am supportive of this release as I feel progress is being made toward a very good goal. For me personally the plugin is in my workflow wheel house. If it takes a annual update to get it where it needs to be so be it.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2024, Realband, Reaper, Harrison Mixbus 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows® Today!
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