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A friend of mine, Pam Messer had written a song and asked me to put music to it. She had a good idea what she wanted and sent me a vocal track she had recorded on a USB mike. I helped out with some BIAB tracks. I struggled a bit with EQ trying to get a clear vocal but then I thought it may be due to my anti-high frequency hearing. How does it sound to you? Vic The band: Synth 1278 Bass 2474 and 2483 Guitar 896 and 3692 https://on.soundcloud.com/HhAqo
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Hi Pam and Vic
Very nice and calm song
Very interesting melody
Sounds good
The vocals are really nice
Also the technical preparation of the vocals is well done by you
An excellent work
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Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Very good song and killer harmonies. I like your production a lot. There does sound as if something could be done production-wise to improve the vocals, but I don't know what that would be. Not a major problem at all. Very enjoyable.
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The guitars and the vocals felt like they were in different spaces, so maybe something to glue them all together might help? But as Rob said, not a big thing.
Really liked the harmonies, but it was hard for me to make out any of the words at the end.
Nice folk sound, though!
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Thanks Andi.
That’s encouraging to hear.
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Hi Tunemonger and thank you.
Maybe I’ll have another try with the vocal but I don’t think it can be done without creating sibilants.
The harmonies are produced by me manually shifting the pitch on the main vocal.
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The singer's main melody took a little getting used to, but it grows on you, and the longer I listen, the more I like it.
Technically, I would remove the reverb from the singer's voice and turn it back up until it matches the rest of the band. Right now it's too much compared to the band, or maybe it's just a different flavor of reverb that makes the singer seem to be in a different space.
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David.
Thanks for the input.
I used the same pattern as I normally do: Reverb on instruments only and delay on Vocal.
Then I put a touch of reverb on the whole mix when mastering.
The vocal wasn't very clear when I first got it.
I will revisit though.
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Thanks for the sugg. Mr. Thomas
As I said to David, the effect on the vocal is delay not reverb.
This is my normal way of doing things.
I have now changed it to reverb. Does it sound better?
The recorded vocal wasn't too clear though when I received it.
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Nice backing.
Vocal seems to sit in the mix nicely, I think. Though some words are hard to understand.
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The voice is basically lovely but the sibilance and some "mouth noise/lipsmacks" etc. do get in the way as does some of the attack on notes.
It needs some rounding as well as addressing the above.
There're about three points, from about 1.6kHz up, where the vocal has excess energy and they vary from a plosives to strident tones.
A multi band compressor followed by some EQ carving might work, def not the other way around.
It's a wonderful song and, to do it justice, the vocal ought to be re-recorded but you know that.
Your part in the production is sympathetic, supportive and lovely.
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The voice is basically lovely but the sibilance and some "mouth noise/lipsmacks" etc. do get in the way as does some of the attack on notes.
It needs some rounding as well as addressing the above.
There're about three points, from about 1.6kHz up, where the vocal has excess energy and they vary from a plosives to strident tones.
A multi band compressor followed by some EQ carving might work, def not the other way around.
It's a wonderful song and, to do it justice, the vocal ought to be re-recorded but you know that.
Your part in the production is sympathetic, supportive and lovely. I agree with Ray. Great backing tracks This is a diamond in the rough and just needs a little polishing to shine.
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The song grew on me as I listened.
Some of the chord progressions are a bit disconcerting.... At 53 seconds is an example. Singer slurs up in a strange sounding way.
I think the mix as a whole and especially the vocals are much too bright. Lots of high end stuff that could use some taming with a rounded off EQ. Mellowing the vocals would go a long way to improving this song. Others have mentioned sibilant sounds and lip smacks. Surgical envelopes on the volume and EQ will fix that.
This reminded me of some of the esoteric British singers from the 60s and 70s.
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Pam sounds so good, and you did a fine job of capturing that goodness, Vic. Love that harmony. I bet she even sounded good with the USB mic. Nice, simple band. Yes, the mix could be better as suggested, but the talent shines through.
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Thank you, Floyd.
Yes, the vocal is giving me problems.
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Hi Ray.
Some of those noises are weird. I can't track them down.
I tried all sorts of EQ tricks, and then some of your suggs but no luck.
I think a new vocal is the next step toward sanity.
Thank you for your take on it.
Vic
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I loved this song. I too got deeper and deeper into the song as it progressed. Very cool delivery. She has an awesome voice. Backtrack was excellent. Well done
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Thank you Mario.
I'm on it. I asked her to redo some of the vocal.
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Thanks, Guitarhacker.
All suggs are being considered.
To my ears there are some consonants, at the beginning and ending of words, indiscernible.
If I warm up the vocal it makes it worse.
I have asked Pam for a new vocal, so I hope that works.
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Hi Marty.
Thanks for the encouraging words. I'm waiting for a new vocal.
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