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Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #781148 11/05/23 06:45 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda	Quote If I think about the minor key as if the major is king. So one of the nice things that you'll find is that major chord progressions can be applied to minor keys. C is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Cm is 1, 2, 3b, 4, 5, 6b, 7b Yes, may I suggest a small adjustment to emphasis that this formular works for every Key and every scale: Major is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Minor is 1, 2, 3b, 4, 5, 6b, 7b Including: Melodic Minor is 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Harmonic Minor is 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7 Seems like we are speaking a common language now. Last edited by MusicStudent; 11/05/23 06:51 AM. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Input chords to display chord notes DrDan #781153 11/05/23 08:11 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP babymusic Veteran B Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 2,166	Originally Posted by MusicStudent Seems like we are speaking a common language now. The major is king, very good. In SCALER, the same applies. When I understand the meaning, I will find everything so beautiful. WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #781156 11/05/23 08:29 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda	Sorry, I could not resist. But, if this stuff is new to anyone, then this next list may bring the lesson home even stronger. Keep in mind, Scales and Chords are the same! So this applies to everything. Appreciating this will complete your graduation from Music Theory 101. Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7 Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7 BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Input chords to display chord notes DrDan #781158 11/05/23 09:25 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,257 Hampshire, UK Gordon Scott Veteran
Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,257 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by MusicStudent Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7 Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7 These are known as "modes" or sometimes "church modes" and they are different ways to play the same notes. Wikipedia has a page here. There's an explanation/demonstration I like, in English/American, here, but you may be able to find a version in your own language. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2024 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: Input chords to display chord notes DrDan #781159 11/05/23 09:29 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,001 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by MusicStudent Sorry, I could not resist. But, if this stuff is new to anyone, then this next list may bring the lesson home even stronger. Keep in mind, Scales and Chords are the same! So this applies to everything. Appreciating this will complete your graduation from Music Theory 101. Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7 Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7 This is good information but I hope it doesn't confuse people. Throwing modes at some whom are having a hard time with a relative minor can be very confusing IMHO. Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player? 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Input chords to display chord notes DrDan #781164 11/05/23 10:00 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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Bass Thumper Veteran Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 2,458 United States	Originally Posted by MusicStudent Sorry, I could not resist. But, if this stuff is new to anyone, then this next list may bring the lesson home even stronger. Keep in mind, Scales and Chords are the same! So this applies to everything. Appreciating this will complete your graduation from Music Theory 101. Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7 Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7 Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7 Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7 Thanks Dan, I've seen some of these terms before but never knew what they meant. https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677 BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.

Re: Input chords to display chord notes MarioD #781170 11/05/23 10:57 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda	Originally Posted by MarioD This is good information but I hope it doesn't confuse people. Throwing modes at some whom are having a hard time with a relative minor can be very confusing IMHO. Understood Mario, obviouly not my intention. I consider the modes simply different scales. Just as I consider the major and minor just different scales. I thought this would tie together with our discussion of triads and chords. But this may be an overly simplistic approach. Thanks for comment. I will consider changing the order of elements in our Music 101 course curriculum going forward BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Input chords to display chord notes Gordon Scott #781174 11/05/23 11:07 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,017 Wauconda	Originally Posted by Gordon Scott These are known as "modes" or sometimes "church modes" and they are different ways to play the same notes. Wikipedia has a page here. There's an explanation/demonstration I like, in English/American, here, but you may be able to find a version in your own language. Thanks Gordon, Great video, I know this guy well. And yes you are right, fundamentally "different ways to play the same notes". My point is All scales are variation of the Major Scale. The Ionian (Major) scale is based on intervals of W,W,H,W,W,W,H while the other modes are every other combination of intervals. That consideration is addressed in my Music Theory 102. Or maybe I need to change things up as Mario suggested. Last edited by MusicStudent; 11/05/23 12:01 PM. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #781377 11/06/23 11:57 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,791	RapidComposer is more that way: Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) RC-Chords.gif (627.04 KB, 0 downloads) RC-Chords.gif (627.04 KB, 0 downloads) https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Working In Biab & Reaper Simultaneously and Instantly

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #781452 11/07/23 11:32 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,495 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,495 Winston-Salem, NC USA	Band-in-a-Box can do this. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Clipboard01.jpg (135.7 KB, 100 downloads) Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (1124) RB (1) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Input chords to display chord notes Jim Fogle #786170 12/03/23 01:03 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP babymusic Veteran B Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 2,166	Originally Posted by Jim Fogle Band-in-a-Box can do this. Yes, I know that PIANO on the right can be displayed. What I mean is, since PIANO can display chords, can it also display text. Because this can save time. I need to carefully observe the color changes of PIANO now in order to find the keys. WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #786175 12/03/23 02:29 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,257 Hampshire, UK Gordon Scott Veteran
Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,257 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by swingbabymix Originally Posted by Jim Fogle Band-in-a-Box can do this. Yes, I know that PIANO on the right can be displayed. What I mean is, since PIANO can display chords, can it also display text. Because this can save time. I need to carefully observe the color changes of PIANO now in order to find the keys. I think an issue here would if one were to put the text at the piano images would be in getting the text to fit. It's OK with 1,3,5, but not so easy with b5, Maj7, bb7, #11, #13. One would need a larger box for the text, so would have to choose the track for which they would be displayed. The piano keyboard shows the actual notes played, independently of any enharmonic spelling, so it very effective, provided one can fully understand the notes shown. Another factor is how to decide whether to show 2 or 9, 4 or 11, 6 or 13. Not to mention how to display different voicings. I think it would be useful, but I also think it would be fairly complex to achieve something apparently simple and personally I'm not sure it would add much value. Others may disagree with me. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2024 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #786180 12/03/23 02:53 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,791 musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,791	midiChordAnalyzer32-64.zip Create a midi Chord track and put this on it. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Working In Biab & Reaper Simultaneously and Instantly

Re: Input chords to display chord notes musocity #786278 12/03/23 02:35 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP babymusic Veteran B Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 2,166	Originally Posted by musocity midiChordAnalyzer32-64.zip Create a midi Chord track and put this on it. You are a genius. However, I still like that BIAB can do it itself. WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #786294 12/03/23 03:23 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,791	BIAB can't do everything you should learn Reaper then you can make scripts to do anything you like. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Working In Biab & Reaper Simultaneously and Instantly

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #786322 12/03/23 05:43 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,495 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,495 Winston-Salem, NC USA	This might work, Navigate to Window > Big Piano Window or press Ctrl+Shift+N to open the Big Piano Window. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Clipboard01.jpg (102.37 KB, 38 downloads) Ctrl+Shift+N or Window > Big Piano Window Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (1124) RB (1) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Input chords to display chord notes Jim Fogle #786535 12/04/23 03:10 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP babymusic Veteran B Joined: Sep 2021 Posts: 2,166	Originally Posted by Jim Fogle Big Piano Window or press Ctrl+Shift+N to open the Big Piano Window. I have already tuned out the grand piano. Then I press "enter shift" on a chord to play it. However, the grand piano does not display chords. I can only flicker when playing the entire chord, right? WIN10 20H2, AMD R4800H ,16G , 2T ,FOCUSRITE 2i4 MKII，Studio One,FL STUDIO

Re: Input chords to display chord notes babymusic #786635 12/05/23 02:26 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,257 Hampshire, UK Gordon Scott Veteran
Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,257 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by swingbabymix Originally Posted by Jim Fogle Big Piano Window or press Ctrl+Shift+N to open the Big Piano Window. I have already tuned out the grand piano. Hmm, right ... I've mentioned how the translators can change the meaning of things. This is a really good example of that. The translator has decided that "big piano" translates to "grand piano", however that is, of course, something completely different. "tuned out" is likely also a mis-translation. Captioning went awry. left is Big Piano, right is Grand Piano. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) BigPiano.png (43.87 KB, 14 downloads) GrandPiano.jpg (75.41 KB, 14 downloads) Last edited by Gordon Scott; 12/05/23 02:27 AM. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2024 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

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