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Ah, I long for the good old days before Obama when everything was US made!
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Ah, I long for the good old days before Obama when everything was US made!
You're lucky that it's only been three years - we've been buying stuff made in China for at least ten or fifteen years. Maybe it was Ronnie, or Billy or Dubious that started it. 
On the other hand, we do have choices in what we buy; if we didn't buy foreign made goods, I wonder how long they would be imported? Do you think we should be looking in the mirror?
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I think some reading of ye olde Adam Smith is warranted prior to jumping in that pool Glen. The Wealth of Nations.
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Pgmoderation as a user has made 16 posts. Wow.
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A&W in Lexington, just north of Port Huron still does the car-hop thing. Pretty cool. It's where a lot of people take their collector cars to hang out.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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China Buys Its Chopsticks From A Small Georgia Town
Georgia Chopsticks is already producing 2 million chopsticks each day. They're selling their craft primarily to Chinese supermarkets but also are helping hungry people in Japan, Korea and the U.S.
China doen't have the wood. The Georgia Chopsticks Company is gearing up to make 4 million a day to meet increased demand. All unprotected woods!
The US is also the world's largest manufacturer of socks.
We make bowling balls too. There's no Bowling Ball shortage though.
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Ah, I long for the good old days before Obama when everything was US made!
You're lucky that it's only been three years - we've been buying stuff made in China for at least ten or fifteen years. Maybe it was Ronnie, or Billy or Dubious that started it.
On the other hand, we do have choices in what we buy; if we didn't buy foreign made goods, I wonder how long they would be imported? Do you think we should be looking in the mirror?
Glenn
The downfall of communism was the greatest single factor in wrecking our economy. Now we have Russia, China, and the old soviet republics all competing with us. The US was better off when those places were communist. THEY weren't, but WE were.
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It's hard to find ANYTHING that US made. I have trouble believing we produce even socks but have not checked it out.
I bought a Canadian guitar! Simon & Patrick. Love it.
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New Balance is the only sneaker manufacturer still making shoes in the US.
Nike and Reebok have banded together to get the US import duty removed.
If they succeed, New Balance will be out of business.
Nike and Reebok feel they need even more profit at the expense of American Workers and business.
So much greed.
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Got a pair of those on right now!
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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New Balance is the only sneaker manufacturer still making shoes in the US.
Nike and Reebok have banded together to get the US import duty removed.
If they succeed, New Balance will be out of business.
Nike and Reebok feel they need even more profit at the expense of American Workers and business.
So much greed.
It is greed indeed but that is what fuels capitalism. Greed and waste. Buy it, wear it out quickly, throw it away and buy another one. Now we're approaching world-wide capitalism. We loved it when the US, Canada, and the UK were winning. We've taught our old enemies the game and they're beating us now.
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I apologize for my going off on a political rant, as I am "want to do"...both to PG
and to the people I offended.
Glad to see this thread back "on track"!!
No more politics discussion from G-Daddy!!
Yeah, you and me both my friend. The political talk was pretty mild but we've all seen it get out of hand in a New York minute. I can see why the mods jumped in and that's cool. The basic story is good enough and I'm happy they unlocked this thread because it is music related we all just have to <gasp> bite our tongues. It's getting some radio airplay, it got about ten minutes on Mark Levine's show yesterday.
I'm very interested to see how this turns out. Is it really the pres...AH, AH, no, <slap> sorry 
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Well, to the guy who was staunchly defending Obama, whoever that was, okay, look. Nobody thinks Obama woke up on some random day and said "Today is the day we raid Gibson. Go get 'em!!!" The point is that there are a LOT of bigger fish to fry here to be hassling Gibson on the presumption that SOME wood used to build SOME guitars MIGHT have MAYBE come into the country in a gray area of an archaic import/export law. Any wrongdoing would have happened on the exporter side of the transaction. Go hassle them.
Can't he redirect that energy, manpower and financial resource into trying to slow or stop the flow of illegal drugs from Columbia and Mexico? Cocaine and crack have ruined a lot more lives than a Gibson guitar with a fingerboard made from allegedly illegal ebony will. THAT is what made this whole event BS. Nothing else to do then send a SWAT team in full battle gear into a plant full of AMERICANS building instruments for people in a performing art to buy and use to create music?
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Bob, Kudos to you and GDaddy! I do think it’s important and we shouldn’t let this issue get sidetracked by a political rant or bias. Thanks to PG for realizing that. As far as I’m concerned, we should leave mentioning the parties of Democrats or Republicans to other forums. It’s sufficient to mention the “feds” and how they’re trying to railroad Gibson. All parties are guilty of using federal power to strong arm small businesses. If you wanna contact your elected officials, start here: http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtmlI have them on speed dial, (seriously). Tell them what you think about the Gibson situation. I have.
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Eddie,
We’d probably get farther by leaving Barak Hussein’s name out of it, and simply refer to “this administration” or something to that effect. Most folks will get the meaning, and maybe PG won’t shut us down again.
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I have them on speed dial, (seriously).
You have telephones where you live? You put it in right after the indoor plumbing?
How many other offensive stereotypes about West Virginia can I come up with? Let's put 20 seconds on the clock please.... 
I will never forget the first time I was driving through WV heading to Florida (usually I fly) and saw signs that were spaced out along 77 that read
When you travel
In our state
Buckle up
And don't temp fate
And my first thought was "I wonder if EVERYBODY who drives past those signs gets the play that it is a takeoff on Burma Shave signs from years gone by?" AND, I also wondered how many people are just DYING to put up that 5th sign that SAYS "Burma Shave"?
Now I drove down that way in late winter to go to the Monongahela National Forest but I didn't see those signs anymore. That is some beautiful country right through there. Took my dog down at the end of winter when we had the place to ourselves and let her sniff her little heart out tracking deer. Caught a nice crisp 40-ish degree day with bright sunshine and did a lot of walking and enjoying nature.
And the next day coming home it rained like it was never going to stop.
How does it all relate to the thread? Don't we have trees in the US to make guitars from? One luthier here in town goes to North Carolina somewhere to buy a tree every other year or so with an eye on 10 years into the future when that tree will be ready to use. I know we don't grow those exotic hardwoods, but man, if they are going to cause problems let's find American solutions.
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How many other offensive stereotypes about West Virginia can I come up with? Let's put 20 seconds on the clock please....
Trust me, … I’ve heard them all. And jokes are only funny if there’s an element of truth in them! Some of them are hilarious. ("Stereotypes" are only "stereotypes" because they are true!) Or so said a comedian I once heard.
Take for example, several years ago when WV passed a law making it legal to eat your “road kill”, and I knew I was going to be in Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton and Cincinnati the next week on business, I prepared for the visit by doing some google searches.
Turns out, it had been legal in Ohio to eat your road kill many YEARS before WV ever thought about it. I let my customers have some fun at my expense, … and then informed them about the OH law. They got a kick out of it.
Actually, .. we, (West Virginian's), didn’t think about it, … we just loaded up that deer, (aka SOB), into the pickup and BBQ’d his ass as soon as we got him home! ;-)
My point was to leave Obama, Communists, Democrats, Socialists and Marxist’s, (in no particular order, ......since it doesn't really matter, ......6 of one, ... a half dozen of the other), out of the discussion so as not to offend our Canadian friends at PG.
I'm gonna make every effort to do that! Please do the same. The point is easily made without mentioning names.
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You mean North American right EE?
We've got spare wood now that hockey sticks are made of 'stuff'.
I suspect they are not sticks anymore.
Pawlitics. I took that. I still don't get it, except I think of it as powerlaticks.
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Don't we have trees in the US to make guitars from? One luthier here in town goes to North Carolina somewhere to buy a tree every other year or so with an eye on 10 years into the future when that tree will be ready to use. I know we don't grow those exotic hardwoods, but man, if they are going to cause problems let's find American solutions.
I have a "Wish" fretless Hyperbass* that I used to use as my avatar.** It is made by Steve Wishnevsky*** in North Carolina exclusively of U.S. tonewoods, with the possible exception of a layer of purpleheart sandwiched into the body. (I could be wrong on that.) The fingerboard is persimmon, which he refers to as "American ebony." It is a unique grayish color. The neck and body are persimmon(!), mahogany, and maple. The bridge and nut are Corian--yup, Countertops R Us. I may replace the bridge with a Badass or some such, but it will be of U.S. manufacture.
*Now "Hipper" bass--trademark thing with Zon musical instruments.
**And will again, if I ever figure out how to post images to this site, which has become ridiculously difficult.
***wishbass.com. You should see his site. He has a rather unique approach to luthiery and marketing.
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Well, to the guy who was staunchly defending Obama, . . .
I can't find anyone defending Barack Obama, let alone staunchly defending him. But maybe my reading comprehension isn't what it used to be.
Glenn
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