|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,334
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,334 |
My first computer, long before the IBM PC was even invented, used a portable cassette tape recorder for storage.
Anybody have BIAB on cassettes? (kidding)
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,476
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,476 |
That wouldn't happen to be the Radio Shack Color Computer (aka CoCo) would it? I still have soft spot for the CoCo - it got me through grad school (a CoCo and a TI-59 with more than a few of the library modules) . (I was a late bloomer I didn't attend college for a long time after high school)
But then in late 70's early 80's more than a few "PC's" used cassette as "mass storage" - what was the blinding baud rate again?
Larry
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 08/15/12 09:06 PM.
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,334
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,334 |
I still have a Color Computer in the closet, but no, that came out in summer 1980 and ran LOGO, among other things. I started in 1977 with the TRS-80 Model 1 and then a Model 3. Before 1982 I worked for Tandy and was selling these computers to IBMers among others and demonstrating them on TV, and I managed the first retail computer store in the Albany region. I then became their regional educator before teaching computer science in college for the next twenty-five years.
The data transfer rate of my first modem, which had suction cups to fit over a telephone receiver, was 300 baud. It was a happy day when the 1200 baud unit came out.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 241
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 241 |
I got my first taste of BB back in 1982 when a friend of mine from a musical show we were both in gave me a boot-leg copy of BB/DOS version on 5 1/4" floppy. I liked the program so much that I've since bought every version on a yearly basis since then and am waiting for Christmas to get 2013 BB. By the way, I still have every version except the 5 1/4" floppy version.
Great Product, Great Company. Thanks Peter for 30 years of joy.
Last edited by David Walker; 08/16/12 06:04 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 103
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 103 |
My first computer was something called an "Elf". Had a full 256 bytes of ram. Not even enough to store this post. Disks were 8" floppies at that time and drives were were so expensive, you only saw them them at your place of employment.
My first "midi" computer was a Commodore64 with a home built midi interface and Dr T's sequencer. There was also a very crude music creating program around at that time that produced some type of rythm loop, if I remember right. Later moved up to an Atari ST, also with Dr. T's sequencer. The sequencer would crash any time you entered an invalid quantity.
Never knew BIAB went back that far. Glad to see they made it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,217
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,217 |
My first computer was a Texas Instruments TI99/4A and it had a cassette storage device. "Brrr-brrr-brrr-brrr-brrr-brrr-brrr".
My first edition of BiaB was the first version they put out on Atari. Second version was a PC pre-windows DOS version and I also had one for a Mac with a Motorola chip soon after I went into business.
I do remember working BiaB on a PC with 5.25" floppy disks but BiaB itself came on a 3.5 disk.
And before the TI I had a slide rule, and actually knew how to use it (but I don't remember now).
Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton  Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,334
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,334 |
Hey Bob, I remember your ads in an audio recording magazine from sometime in the 90s. When did you first start marketing BIAB add-on styles?
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,476
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,476 |
Ahh..slide rules - got me through high school, AF tech school, and part of college, I suspect quite a few on THIS forum used them as well and in the same "venues!" I also collect them and have a fairly large collection, a few can be seen http://sliderulemuseum.com/ (look under Dietzgen). I had more in Mike's gallery but he replaces virtual collection (ones not physically at the museum) with ones the museum actually owns (some bought, some donated which is where my collection will go some day). There are some manuals that I passed along as well (they didn't have and or the correct version wasn't on the web anywhere). I still carry a pocket SR in my bag. Sometimes it's a Nestler 0130 MultiMath Duplex but most of the time it's a Pickett N-600ES, becasue that particular model went to the moon on Apollo missions (SR's, paper and pencil got us to the moon; not 64 digits of "precision"
Last edited by Larry Kehl; 08/18/12 04:23 PM.
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
Larry, you are a man to mine own heart *grin*.
Along with the Slide Rule, I also sometimes load the Sextant into my kit when doing TechRep work on GSAT systems.
You should see the faces of the younger set when I pull that thing out of the case and step out onto the flybridge...
"What's he DOING?"
"I think he's DIVINING our postion. From the STARS..."
"Can that be done?"
Does anyone remember the scene in the movie "Apollo 13" where the engineer confronted with in-flight emergency is shown with a TI Calculator?
Hard to find that scene anymore as so many of us contacted the Producer, etc. to tell them that there weren't any TI calculators at the time of Apollo 13. So they actually redid the movie and inserted a clip of the guy using his slipstick...
Then, of course, there's this digital code, the only one that can be translated using nothing more than the human brain. "Morse Code" -- Yet another skillset which should not have been allowed to languish.
--Mac
Last edited by Mac; 08/18/12 06:44 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 416
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 416 |
I taught myself Basic programming on a ZX81 monitor was the TV, all of 16k RAM, programs was saved to cassettes. Upgraded when the ZX Spectrum came out 48k RAM....
I remember the tricks we tried to keep the programs lean to fit it all in!
I tell the youngsters at work how a pal of mine and myself wrote a complete PC Board productiion control system in the 80's on a Sharp MZ80B using dBase II (yes not dBaseIII). This also had 2 cassettes, one for the system, one for data....could'nt pick it up myself, so heavy ..
I'm doing allright for Country Trash ....
I used to care, but things have changed (Bob Dylan)
BIAB 2022W + RB
M-Audio FastTrack C600, Rode NT2-A
Digitech VoiceLive 4
Epiphone Sheraton, Ibanez 12str, Washburn 6str, Cort 6Str Nylon
Yanagisawa Tenor Sax
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 38,502 |
The ALTAIR was my first personal computer. Mid 70's -- and you ahd to be able to follow schematics, directions, solder and pretty much built it from scratch. The Output was a row of LEDs and many of us home experimenters dedicated a LOT of time and resources towards getting the Altair to display ASCII on a screen. When I finally achieved that using a standard old television set, man, it was time to dance around the ham shack. http://oldcomputers.net/altair.html My first Music Machine was an Atari, running the incredibly powerful, even by today's standards, "Bars 'n Pipes" MIDI sequencer software. (Still keep a running Atari around here because sometimes the MIDI editing capabilities of Bars 'n Pipes can streamline delivery in certain projects. The ability to roll your own scripts to do any sort of batch work is still incredibly powerful despite all the sequencing softwares now available.) --Mac
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 612
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 612 |
My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair with 2K of memory. Added an external keyboard and 16K memory and thought I was really "Cookin'" Graduated to a Kaypro -- remember those?
Bob Coy
HP Desktop
Windows 10 Home, AMD A6-7310, 6GB Ram 1TB Hard drive. Radeon Graphics & Sound
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,217
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,217 |
Quote:
Hey Bob, I remember your ads in an audio recording magazine from sometime in the 90s. When did you first start marketing BIAB add-on styles?
When PG Music offered version 4 for Atari, it was the first version to allow end users to make user styles. I believe that was in 1991 or 1992. It only had 3 instruments. Drums, bass and piano.
The basic 24 'built in' styles were very limiting, and especially the Latin American styles wouldn't do down here in South Florida, so I wrote a number of styles for myself. Better Latin styles, more rock styles a couple of country styles and so on.
I gave my styles away to a few of my friends, and they all told me they liked my styles better than the PG Music styles (aren't friends great!). So I took out an ad in Electronic Musician magazine, I think this was in 1992, but I could be off a year.
A few months later, Peter Gannon called, and encouraged me to write for IBM compatible computers (that's what we called PCs back then) and offered to convert my Atari styles to IBM styles (Atari and IBM shared the same floppy disk format). So I sent him the disks.
Then when I sold enough style disks to buy an IBM compatible computer, I got a 386 / DOS 5.0 / Win 3.1 IBM compatible with a 5.25 floppy and a 3.5 floppy (BiaB was DOS only then, the first Windows version hadn't arrived yet). Then came the Mac Classic II running system 6. I've upgraded all but the Atari quite a few times. Though I do remember getting a 10M hard drive for the Atari that was about the size of the Manhattan telephone directory.
So I'm guessing 1992. I never thought I'd still be doing it 20 years later but I am thankful for PG Music for the product and all my loyal customers for the support.
I wonder if Peter Gannon had any idea as to what would become of that great but clunky little infant program that was developed back in the early days of the PC?
Notes
Brand new 2012.5 updates from Norton Music:
- 2 new style disks for Band-in-a-Box
- 2 new free (with a purchase) fancy intro/ending disks for Real Band and other DAW's
- The Ultimate Gospel Fake Disk
- The Real Rock Fake Disk (plenty of classic rock in this one)
- The Beatles Fake Disk
- And an updated Christmas Fake Disk
Hundreds of Free .sgu and .mp3 demos for the above at: http://www.nortonmusic.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
What was the original publishing/sales date of BIAB?
Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,476
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 2,476 |
Quote:
What was the original publishing/sales date of BIAB?
Thanks
Peter,
I'd also like to know - Come on go dig out your records (both kinds  I suspect like me you still have/play vinyl?) and report when the first BIAB for "PC" sold (intel x86 platforms because I think PG
Win10Pro,i9,64GB,2TBSSD+20TBHDDs,1080TI,BIAB'24,Scarlett18i8,Montage7,Fusion 8HD,QS8,Integra7,XV5080,QSR,SC-8850,SPLAT,FL21&others,Komp.14,IK suite&others, just a guitar player-AXE FX III &FM9T, FishmanTP, MIDIGuitar2, GK2/3'sw/GI20
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,217
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,217 |
I remember seeing little ads in EM and Keyboard on the PC when all I had was an Atari (if my memory is correct but then, that was a loooooong time ago). I tend to think it started as a DOS program (again, I could be wrong about that). I've been using it since it first came out on the Atari. I might even have the floppy disk somewhere  I don't know the edition of DOS I started with, but when BiaB finally came out in Windows, they re-numbered it to Version 1 again. So I would guess either late 80s or early 90s would be the origin of this great app. Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 976
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 976 |
I've still got a copy of version 1 for DOS. I have it installed on an old HP Vectra 486 DX/25. It works with my MPU401 plugged into the computer but otherwise will not run if it doesn't find an interface it 'likes'. Kevin 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,444
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,444 |
Quote:
What was the original publishing/sales date of BIAB?
Thanks
According to information from another area of this webiste, http://www.pgmusic.com/about.htm Peter formed PG Music in 1988.However I suspect that BIAB in an earlier form was around prior to that, judging by some of the above comments.
Cheers,
Keith
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047 |
Last edited by seeker; 08/21/12 08:52 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 976
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 976 |
The package shown must be later than version 1 for DOS as it has drums, bass and piano. The version I have on the HP only has drums and bass.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2024 Italian for Mac is Here!
Ci siamo dati da fare e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 222 RealTracks, nuovi RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, due nuovi set di "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 e altro ancora!
Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Mac is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Mac Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK & 7, Xtra Styles PAK 17 & 18, und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 French for Mac® is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 apporte plus de 50 fonctions nouvelles ainsi qu'une importante de contenus nouveaux à savoir : 222 RealTracks, des RealStyles nouveaux, des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes d'Instruments, des Prestations d'Artistes, des "Morceaux avec Choeurs", un Set 3 de Tracks Jouables, un Set 2 de RealDrums Jouables, deux nouveaux Sets de "RealDrums Stems", des Styles XPro PAK 6 & 7, des Xtra Styles PAK 17 & 18, et bien plus encore!
New! XPro Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 7 with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 50 RealTracks and RealDrums that are sure to delight!
With XPro Styles PAK 7 you can expect 25 rock & pop, 25 jazz, and 25 country styles, as well as 25 of this year's wildcard genre: Celtic!
Here's a small sampling of what XPro Styles PAK 7 has to offer: energetic rock jigs, New Orleans funk, lilting jazz waltzes, fast Celtic punk, uptempo train beats, gritty grunge, intense jazz rock, groovy EDM, soulful R&B, soft singer-songwriter pop, country blues rock, and many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 7 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box 2024® with XPro Styles PAK 7! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Watch the XPro Styles PAK 7 Overview & Styles Demos video.
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2024 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box version 2024 is here with 200 brand new styles to take for a spin!
Along with 50 new styles each for the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, we’ve put together a collection of styles using sounds from the SynthMaster plugin!
In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 18 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Expand your Band-in-a-Box 2024® library with Xtra Styles PAK 18! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 18 here.
Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 18 Overview & Styles Demos video.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 18 requires the 2024 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 18 for Band-in-a-Box version 2024 is here with 200 brand new styles to take for a spin!
Along with 50 new styles each for the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, we’ve put together a collection of styles using sounds from the SynthMaster plugin!
In this PAK you'll find: dubby reggae grooves, rootsy Americana, LA jazz pop, driving pop rock, mellow electronica, modern jazz fusion, spacey country ballads, Motown shuffles, energetic EDM, and plenty of synth heavy grooves! Xtra Style PAK 18 features these styles and many, many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 18 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Expand your Band-in-a-Box 2024® library with Xtra Styles PAK 18! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 18 here.
Watch the Xtra Styles PAK 18 Overview & Styles Demos video.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 18 requires the 2024 UltraPAK/UltraPAK+/Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 7 for Band-in-a-Box 2024 for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 7 with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 50 RealTracks and RealDrums that are sure to delight!
With XPro Styles PAK 7 you can expect 25 rock & pop, 25 jazz, and 25 country styles, as well as 25 of this year's wildcard genre: Celtic!
Here's a small sampling of what XPro Styles PAK 7 has to offer: energetic rock jigs, New Orleans funk, lilting jazz waltzes, fast Celtic punk, uptempo train beats, gritty grunge, intense jazz rock, groovy EDM, soulful R&B, soft singer-songwriter pop, country blues rock, and many more!
Special Pricing! Until September 30, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 7 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea)! Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box 2024® with XPro Styles PAK 7! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Watch the XPro Styles PAK 7 Overview & Styles Demos video.
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2024 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums65
Topics83,117
Posts753,879
Members39,003
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean