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The free chord syllabus pdf is an excellent reference resource for matching various scales to chords. It shows you the scale and the chord in the key of C but it is easy to transpose them to other keys.

I hope this adds to your knowledge base. I know it did to mine.


{edit} forgot the link, CRS!
http://www.jazzbooks.com/mm5/download/FREE-scale-syllabus.pdf

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Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?

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Just wanted to add that the link points to the Jamey Aebersold Scale Syllabus.

Countless musicians have gained from the use of this excellent little guide.

If you're serious, you should have it.


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Got it................thank you!

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Thanks Mario!

In the Berklee course I'm in right now, probably the biggest revelation that I've learned and am just starting to internalize, is that the major chord is not just the 1 3 5 of the scale but also the 7 and 9. It's right there in the very top line of the syllabus

C = C E G B D

That, to a non-jazz person, is a pretty big leap. Those of you that have been at this for decades - that might seem minor (no pun intended) to you, but for me, this is a revelation never having been exposed to the topic before.

Same goes for all of the other 'Five Basic Categories' and a few others.

My past chord theory understanding has involved these definitions:
Major has always been 1 3 5
Minor has always been 1 b3 5
Dominant has always been 1 3 5 b7
Diminished has always been 1 b3 b5, or two minor triads chained together
Augmented has always been 1 3 #5/b6, or two major triads chained together

Seeing the 'extra notes' on the basic chords is a bit hard to wrap my head around, but it's slowly getting in there.

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Originally Posted By: rockstar_not


Augmented has always been 1 3 #5/b6, or two major triads chained together



HI Rockstarnot, I think you mean two major thirds stacked on top of each other

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Zero is correct.

The best way to think of ALL the intervals while saying them is to also make it rote habit to know the number of half steps are in the particular interval.

A Major Third is 4 Half Steps.

etc.

I'm actually still surprised at how many musicians don't know that information quickly when asked.


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Originally Posted By: rockstar_not


Augmented has always been 1 3 #5/b6, or two major triads chained together



HI Rockstarnot, I think you mean two major thirds stacked on top of each other

smile


Yes, that's what I meant.

Edit: I guess this shows how out of practice I am with music terminology/lessons/etc. Last music lesson I took was in about 1983 or 1984 time frame.

Mac, you might be surprised at the lack of knowledge of half/whole step relationships, but many have never been exposed to that way of thinking. Even this Gary Burton Jazz Improvisation class, ripe with discussion of modes and scales, doesn't peep about memorizing the half/whole step relationships for the modes. It talks about whether the degree of the scale for a particular note is flat or sharp.

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Scott, a lot of the tips ours truly freely hands out have to do with my own experiences of what is commonly taught and what is not commonly taught, but perhaps should be.

Somewhere along the line, years and years ago, I stumbled upon the situation on my own and proceeded to spend a week or so just rote memorizing the number of half steps in all of the intervals.

You will be glad you did if you do so.

For one example, that simple mind exercise brought home clearly the reality of the Tritone for me.

Don't know why I never saw it before then, but the Tritone is 6 half steps.

That's exactly one half the octave.

Don't think I'm telling you that knowing the half steps should surplant knowing the interval names, Major 2nd, Major 3rd, minor 6th and all that, we must be absolutely familiar with those terminologies as well.

But also knowing the half steps involved that define each of those intervals can open up another way of thinking about their relationships.

Music is NOT the notes played. Not at all.

Music is actually the distances between those notes.


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Scott, a lot of the tips ours truly freely hands out have to do with my own experiences of what is commonly taught and what is not commonly taught, but perhaps should be.

Somewhere along the line, years and years ago, I stumbled upon the situation on my own and proceeded to spend a week or so just rote memorizing the number of half steps in all of the intervals.

You will be glad you did if you do so.



FWIW, I've printed several copies of the Syllabus and laminated them. One is going into my songwriting 3 ring binder, another into my acoustic guitar case and a 3rd into my electric guitar case!

I will also put a copy of the .pdf into my iPhone and one into my Nook, for casual 'flash-card' exercises. That's how I learned the bass fretboard - I made my own flashcards and kept them in my work back-pack for lunchtime woodshedding!

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