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I really agree with bluage. Like I said before, this should get air-play.
Keep knocking on those doors. I wish you every success.
I don't profess to know the States, but I would've thought this would be a nostalgia trip quite a few parts.
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Quick tech question if I may: A slow-down ending like you've done there is something you just don't get out of BBox as it comes (and many times I've requested it!), so I'm very curious how you pulled that one off?
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A very well arranged tune, and a very genuine and heartfelt vocal. Thanks for sharing it!
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Quick tech question if I may: A slow-down ending like you've done there is something you just don't get out of BBox as it comes (and many times I've requested it!), so I'm very curious how you pulled that one off? All production related to the slow down was accomplished in BB. HOW: at the end....I added about 10 measures to the song....so I could do a proper fade of the held final chord. Then starting with the chord immediately after the pause on the tag.... I split the 4 beat measures into 2 beat measures. Actually.... split is the wrong word. You take the 4 beat measure and make it a 2 beat measure.... but now you have to add a measure for the next 2 beats of the original measure. That was also the reason I added 10 measures. I was going to need about 4 more measures and I needed time for the final chord to ring as it was held. (Does that make sense?) You can go into the bar settings measure by measure and change them from 4 beats to 2 beats. In the same window, you can adjust the base tempo of that measure. So.... I essentially double the number of measures and then start slowing the tempo in each successive one. Example.... lets say the song is at 100bpm normally.... (because I forget the actual tempo) So the first 2 beat measure after the pause.... I set to 90, the next 85, the next 80, the next 75 and the final one 70 but with the held note it almost doesn't matter. The reason I split the measures down to 2 beats is so that the tempo drop is not heard as a series of steps but a much more smooth deceleration. Resolution. I have discovered that the better sounding deceleration is the one that is more dramatic.... as in 100 to 70 vs 100 to 90. It took several adjustments to the individual tempos to get a good slow down. And truth be told, I probably should have dropped the numbers a bit more. Hope that helps you.
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A very well arranged tune, and a very genuine and heartfelt vocal. Thanks for sharing it!
-MWG Thank you.
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All production related to the slow down was accomplished in BB. === Hope that helps you. That was of tremendous help!!  I still have the view that something like this should be an optional feature right from the get go, but this was a very interesting reading indeed. Thank you so much for the detailed instructions, I'll be sure to give this a try in the future.
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Herb,
Somehow or another I missed your excellent follow up comments regarding your workflow and production techniques. For someone such as myself such information is invaluable!
I still like the thought behind this song. I live in abedroom suburb with plenty of empty and decaying buildings. Everytime I pass one I think about how "that" was somebodies pride or livelyhood in the past and question why no one can find a use for them now.
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Lots of folks must be listening...... What a cool thing to wake up and see....!!!
» highest in charts: # 1 (66,147 songs currently listed in Country)
» highest in sub-genre: # 1 (8,446 songs currently listed in Country > Christian Country) » today's position: # 1 in Country
» today's position in sub-genre: # 1 in Christian Country
This is the first song I've written that's ever done this....and in 2 days.
THANK YOU EVERYONE.... for listening....
Too bad it's not the Billboard Charts... I keep returning now and then to listen again. Today, I also ran through all the comments from the beginning to end. Just want to say this song is deserving of all the accolades both here on the forum and where else it is played. The only reason this isn't a commercial hit is because the brightest commercial ears have not heard it. I don't think a smart person could turn away from this song. It has all of the potential any song could ever need.
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This is a very well done song by any measure.
Slowing something down and keeping everyone in time in a studio with live musicians requires a lot of work.
For any song to sound really good everything has to fit from the first note played until the last note played. The lyrical context has to fit the chord structure and melody line.
Everything is in the right place with what you have done!
I also think this song would be well received on the radio.
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I thought I knew that title. I remember this from last year. Nice to hear it again!! Take care. Greg
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Nice song Herb! I like the emotion and the message!
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Hi, "guitarhacker"...
I listen to "Dust on the Floor" every single time I check into the "User Showcase" forum. Did you have any luck "shopping it around"?
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Howdy Herb!
Well, it seems we missed the original. Must have been when we were away for a couple of months. But we sure did enjoy the heck out this version! We grew up in the late 40's thru early 60's (yeah, we're that freaking old!) and this really takes us back.
Loved everything about this. Sounds like it should be n the airways ... definitely pro caliber and just plain old great music!
Best to you, Hope 2016 is your best year ever ...
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Hi, "guitarhacker"...
I listen to "Dust on the Floor" every single time I check into the "User Showcase" forum. Did you have any luck "shopping it around"?
-bluage- Nope... it doesn't fit the bro/hip hop country formula so no one there is interested in this kind of music anymore. Unless I had a big country artist as a co-writer who had the clout to get this on their own CD.... there's not much hope of getting a cut in that town. To everyone who has commented..... thank you for listening.... I know there's quite a few folks who do appreciate good country music, but they ain't in Nashville anymore.
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If it's any consolation, it still so far got 11,000+ views on the forum. That's up there for sure.
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If it's any consolation, it still so far got 11,000+ views on the forum. That's up there for sure. Thanks for pointing that out.... Very cool.
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I guess I missed it the first time around. Yup, a classic "small town dying" song. Well done. I think all of us have to write a least one like this. I wrote one back in 2008, but I lost the files due to a crash. I went and found it on soundclick and I quickly rearranged the lyrics to knock out one chorus and made it shorter. Maybe I will re-record it sometime in the future.
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