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Great write guys, I really like the arrangement
and overall feel of the song, very nice vocals. Kenny, as I pointed out above, yeah, the arrangement kind of evolved with time. It started out much different from what it is now, Thanks for listening and commenting. Herb and David,
This is excellent. Loved the guitar work.
Regards, Bob, always a pleasure to hear from you on the songs. Thank you for the compliment on the guitar work. Did we enjoy that?
Man, this is super! Such a power sound and superb vocals Herb.
It would fit right into a Tarantino movie. RnAM, A Tarantino movie..... how cool would THAT be? Thank you both for listening. Excellent collaboration David and Herb
Loved the lyrics in this song. Vocal and guitar were excellent. Scott, lyrics are very important to me. If they can't tell a story and evoke emotions, then that is a song that never sees the light of day. I'm glad you liked what you heard. This was a really fun write. David sent me a really cool idea and the outline so it was almost easy to write this rather quickly.
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David,
This song wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for your initial idea, first rough draft verse and outline for the song. Thank you for sending this to me.
This was a fun project, and you were easy to work with on this, with the advice and ideas you provided from start to finish, we crafted this into a pretty cool song.
Thanks
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This is a good write.
Imagery is there and the tempo and instrumentation fits the subject and lyrics.
To me....the delivery of this one is reminiscent of Charlie Daniels/Marshall Tucker back in the 70's.
It can be challenging to write convincingly on a subject as personal as this one is.
Well done all around.....good collaboration.
Carry on.
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Superb song, and about somthing really worthwhile writing about ... compiments guyz. F
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It's hard to add to what's been said. The production has the open sound that the two of us really like. No mud, everything on the sound stage has it's place and works together. The write, the vocals, playing, RT choice are all standout.
Kudos to both of you!
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First all the compliments and charting is well deserved. They are happening for the simple fact that this is a really cool song all the way around.
I totally agreed with RnAM's comment that this could be in QT movie! It would definitely set a scene!
I have to ask, who came up with the title? Such a great title! I drew me in! I will admit, I figured it would be slightly dark, but it was darker than I thought the song would be. Not a bad thing, but you nailed me with it!
To me, from subject to delivery it has that Neil Young thing going for it. That's saying a lot!
So glad I listened. It was WELL worth it!
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TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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I often get confused when I read certain posters who say "it's impossible to get a truly modern country or indie sound" [or whatever] using Band-in-a-Box.
Well, I guess that depends on who's behind the board.
I wanted to comment separately on this. I agree 100%! It's almost like saying "this guitar can't get a truly modern county sound." lol...ok... Thanks for pointing this out David!
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TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
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Herb / David,
This is a great sound! The song, production and vocals all work so well...
Congrats on an excellent collaboration.
Bob
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This is a good write.
Imagery is there and the tempo and instrumentation fits the subject and lyrics.
To me....the delivery of this one is reminiscent of Charlie Daniels/Marshall Tucker back in the 70's.
It can be challenging to write convincingly on a subject as personal as this one is.
Well done all around.....good collaboration.
Carry on.
Chulaivet1966 Thank you. MTB & CDB were among my biggest early influences in country rock.
Superb song, and about somthing really worthwhile writing about ... compiments guyz. F
Fiddler2007, we thought the subject was a good one too. Getting the story right was the hard part. It's hard to add to what's been said. The production has the open sound that the two of us really like. No mud, everything on the sound stage has it's place and works together. The write, the vocals, playing, RT choice are all standout.
Kudos to both of you! Janice & Bud, Thank you both for listening.
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I have to ask, who came up with the title? Such a great title! I drew me in! I will admit, I figured it would be slightly dark, but it was darker than I thought the song would be. Not a bad thing, but you nailed me with it! HTL: That would be David. When I saw the title and the first verse draft, I knew this would be a dark song. Due to the nature of the subject matter, and knowing some friends who have had loved ones commit suicide after serving in the service, I opted to treat this as delicately as possible while still dealing with a gritty message. At one point, swerving towards the darker side, I had the sound of a revolver closing and hammer cocking in the dead silence at the end.... but took it out for obvious sensitivity reasons. This is a great sound! The song, production and vocals all work so well...
Congrats on an excellent collaboration. redean: Glad you liked this. Thanks for listening.
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"guitarhacker", and Mr. Snyder...
"Whiskey For Breakfast" is a call for confronting squarely a societal problem that hasn't been solved , and a raw and messy one, at that, concerning those who have "fallen" by their own hand. It could be subtitled, "Don't Look The Other Way".
About a year ago, I read an autobiography titled, "Packing Inferno: The Unmaking of A Marine". It was written by Tyler E. Boudreau, a veteran of the Marine Corps Infantry who after twelve years of service in Iraq and elsewhere, left the force and wrote his story. Ten pages from the end of its two-hundred and twenty-three page length, he revealed to me the thing, the heart, the center, the core out of which the phrase "war is hell" is exposed and explained:
"Combat stress is close to my heart. I'm emotionally invested, so I tend to get rankled in discussions about recovery. I get rankled by all the apparent confusion. 'What do you think all this rage is about?' I ask. 'Where do you think the stress comes from?' It doesn't come from the blistering hot days on the parade deck, or the long deployments away from home, or the tough training, or eating too many MRE's. It comes from trauma. It comes from witnessing, and participating in, extreme violence..."
"Violence will always be bad for the soul", he wrote a few pages later. 'Nuff said.
You have got to get this "out there", pronto, gentlemen. There'll be a lot of awkward silence and nervous throat-clearing, a lot of eyes not meeting the gaze of another's eyes, wherever and in whatever space the listeners of your song may occupy, but I believe that's what you would want, what you wrote it for.
Pete, Woody, Dylan, Joan, and others who walked down this path in their songs would encourage you to do the same thing, I'm sure.
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Hi Herb and David !:))
What a superb tune so
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about it, melody, performance,
message, singing, playing
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Excellent co-operation !
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Hi Herb and David !:))
What a superb tune so
delicately performed and
produced ! I liked everything
about it, melody, performance,
message, singing, playing
and mixing !
Excellent co-operation !
Cheers
Dani Dani thank you for listening.
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"guitarhacker", and Mr. Snyder...
"Whiskey For Breakfast" is a call for confronting squarely a societal problem that hasn't been solved , and a raw and messy one, at that, concerning those who have "fallen" by their own hand. It could be subtitled, "Don't Look The Other Way".
About a year ago, I read an autobiography titled, "Packing Inferno: The Unmaking of A Marine". It was written by Tyler E. Boudreau, a veteran of the Marine Corps Infantry who after twelve years of service in Iraq and elsewhere, left the force and wrote his story. Ten pages from the end of its two-hundred and twenty-three page length, he revealed to me the thing, the heart, the center, the core out of which the phrase "war is hell" is exposed and explained:
"Combat stress is close to my heart. I'm emotionally invested, so I tend to get rankled in discussions about recovery. I get rankled by all the apparent confusion. 'What do you think all this rage is about?' I ask. 'Where do you think the stress comes from?' It doesn't come from the blistering hot days on the parade deck, or the long deployments away from home, or the tough training, or eating too many MRE's. It comes from trauma. It comes from witnessing, and participating in, extreme violence..."
"Violence will always be bad for the soul", he wrote a few pages later. 'Nuff said.
You have got to get this "out there", pronto, gentlemen. There'll be a lot of awkward silence and nervous throat-clearing, a lot of eyes not meeting the gaze of another's eyes, wherever and in whatever space the listeners of your song may occupy, but I believe that's what you would want, what you wrote it for.
Pete, Woody, Dylan, Joan, and others who walked down this path in their songs would encourage you to do the same thing, I'm sure.
LOREN
Loren, you nailed it on this tune. I don't think this originally started to be a song about this topic, but it kinda turned out that way. It's a crying shame how badly we treat the patriots who were willing to serve their country while at the same time we give all sort of benefits to those who are here illegally and from countries that hate this country... it's just wrong. Our sons and daughters should ALWAYS come first and get the best care whether it's physical or mental. As I mentioned previously, I know some vets and their families who have been personally touched by the suicide of a returning war veteran. And trust me when I say it's not just the men who are committing suicide. The one I knew the best, and personally as a little girl who used to go camping with us. Something Shannon saw or was involved in was just too much to deal with and she took her own life with a pistol. Yes, this issue is long overdue to be addressed.
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"guitarhacker"...
I am deeply sorry that you, personally, have had the experience of losing someone affected by war, directly, or indirectly.
That's all the more reason why "Whiskey For Breakfast" should have a larger audience. I don't know if songs have in the past, or could in the future, change things for the better. But, at the very least, a song could inspire the individuals who listen to it, to think about things he/she/they may have consciously avoided thinking about.
I tend to listen to "User's Showcase" songs without reading the composers' notes about how she/she put the song together. I'd rather read the technical stuff after I listen to a song.
So, I assumed that "Whiskey For Breakfast" would be a humourous song about drinking alcohol. But I knew that assumption was dead-wrong as soon as I heard the music, which was stirring, and had tension in it right from the git-go that signaled something of import was coming down the tracks. The "hook" to the song is its music. The music could be the "coating" on the "pill" (the "message") that calls the listeners' attention to it.
Also, the fact of you saying that you didn't forsee the song developing with the topic that ultimately formed its substance means -- to me, at least -- that your own conscience felt it was time for the issue to be treated in a musical fashion. And if it came out of you, then it could be in the rest of us, just waiting to be "called out" by a song.
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This is really excellent! Very strong write. Gotta agree with the Soundclick charts. #1 in my book.
Very important message. I live just outside of San Antonio, and see a lot of disabled vets. They've given so much, and been through so much. PTSD really is a terrible problem. Thanks for writing this and sharing it.
Steve
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This is really excellent! Very strong write. Gotta agree with the Soundclick charts. #1 in my book.
Very important message. I live just outside of San Antonio, and see a lot of disabled vets. They've given so much, and been through so much. PTSD really is a terrible problem. Thanks for writing this and sharing it.
Steve
Steve, thank you for listening. As a veteran myself, and knowing quite a few from various eras, it's something that is important to not only those involved closely but all Americans. These men and women should be the first ones we help and they shouldn't have to be begging for help. Again thanks for your time.
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I wonder how the meaning of whould change if you had change the name of guy from Johnny Reb to someone like Jim Beam or Jonny Walker.
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Herb and David, great collaboration! Powerful lyrics and performance all the way around. Take care, Torrey
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Wow this is a really professional write and production. A big 70s style lush song with a great narrative. Difficult to pull off with all the elements in the mix but you did, with elan. Well done!
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