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I'm entering a C#m chord for a song in the key of A (3 sharps), and it displays as Dbm. Is there any way to make it display the sharp (in key) chord name rather than the flat (out of key) name? Just to forestall the obvious response: I realize that C# and Db are the same note. But since Key of A is written as 3 sharps, the scale would normally be considered to contain C# rather than Db. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_majorI tried looking in the Preferences dialog and couldn't find anything that seemed relevant. I tried several searches of the forum, and other google searches, and didn't see any hits that seemed to apply.
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Dan -
Which version of BIAB are you using?
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I'll take a look tonight. I know there have been enharmonic display problems in the past, but not usually related to C# in the key of A. I know your song doesn't require it, but what happens if you try C# instead of C#m? Does it accept that, or is it also displayed as Db?
But FYI, even though they are enharmonically equivalent, BIAB will not display B#, E#, Cb, or Fb. They may be called for because of the key signature, but BIAB will always display a C, F, B, or E, regardless of key signature.
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Dan, I would like to rule out the obvious. You said the song is in the key of A. But did you first set the key signature to A in BIAB?
It is the key signature of BIAB that determines which enharmonic pitch is displayed, among other decisions. Many times users will key in a song from a fakebook but don't set the key signature in BIAB first, leaving the default of C.
Just checking...
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Good point, Matt.
Yep, need to explicitly set the key signature first.
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That's definitely wrong. I wonder what F#m displays as.
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Dan, The latest update for BIAB (Mac) 2016 is 152. It would pay to download and install that to see if the issue persists. http://www.pgmusic.com/support_macintoshupdates.htmRegards, Noel
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That's definitely wrong. I wonder what F#m displays as. There are a couple of F#m's in the chord sheet (bars 11,12,45,46), and they (apparently) display correctly. Yes, it is very strange.
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You're right, Trevor; I was looking at it on my phone, so missed it.
Interesting conundrum, since the song key is set correctly.
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Thanks for the info about the update. I wasn't aware of it.
Unfortunately, after I installed the update the symptom didn't change.
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Call Support. Good luck. Perhaps it will be fixed in version 2017 if not sooner.
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