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8T8KEEZ #498809 11/01/18 01:55 AM
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Yes, the "german frustrated user" is me and in some case I find myself in the posts and replies here. Difference is, I was a user "first hours" back in the late eightees, where the program was really "simple", but seemed to be better than a these times usual organaccompaniment or simple drum"computer" wich I hated.( I had an TTR 100 Hammond and turned the pots of the "druminstruments" to their "origin", say "white noise" or so,which led me later to a few drumsymulators, one of `m the Simmons SDS 3, I still own with proud, as I am in "electronic music" and this is a 4 voice synth in real, wich was never "frustrating"- ok, it`s not programmable and refinding a sound once used is- was- frustrating these times, as was on the moogs a. s. o.
Now I`m back on BIAB as I was lucky to get a real bargain ultrapak 2016 and, yes, it`s much different to DAW`s like Cubase I used the last years. This is not frustrating but hard to switch between both worlds, as realising the snippets of real instruments are different to midiinstruments and not "changeable", also it seems to be, as they follow the chords a.s.o. in the songs one makes. Frustrating may be finding the real or best style to a "playback" you want to generate, as f.ex. "country roads" which I found these days between all these "jazz". Also it may seem to be frustrating, to often read back in the "helps" while in a creative phase. Thats when I change to the forums and try to ask!

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Hi sac.
I was frustrated by workflow in BIAB too, until I understood what to expect from it and what I can accomplish better in other software.
Not sure if it will help you, but this is what helped me:

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=71955&Number=495667#Post495667

Read posts of member: dcuny
(Thank you David!)

Best regards,
M.

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Thank you for your reply. It didn`t "help" really, but I feel I`m not alone with it. Also I read your "statement": "I stepped out of song writing for several years, now trying to get back the "lost years"........."
this is similiar to me. I wouldn`t say the lost years, as I was raising my kids and working a lot, to make the living and now I am in retiring and awaiting the going home, I pick my songs from then and try to leave something to my loved ones. There`s not much left, but maybe it will help me get out of the shadows........

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sac,

Well, I guess the best approach for you would be to think what you want to accomplish, write it down and ask for an opinion in Beginners Forum section.
If it is achievable with BIAB I am sure somebody will try to help or at least point you in the direction of how it might work.

One of the biggest challenges for me was to make BIAB a part of the workflow I am familiar with. I passed that stage and fairly comfortable in getting BIAB do things that I need. Again, there are plenty of little things that bother me in BIAB, but I will not let them interfere with my "creative" time.

P.S. About the lost years... I hope you understand, it was a joke. What I meant it is like a bicycle, once you leave it for a few years, it gets rusty (see my nick by avatar:) I am regaining a lot of former knowledge and learning a lot of new things. It is fun stuff. My suggestion to you... Just try to do something. If it does not work, try it again. And if you get lost, this community is great and I am sure you will find help.

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I appreciate this very much, thanks for the "headup" words. The thing is, I`m not a native english speaker and a lot of terms in the vid`s and hints I don`t understand, so there`s two things to go over. I`ll be back, I`m sure.

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Sac,
Actually only couple of days ago PG music announced that they can make a custom video for customers if you ask them:

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=498822&an=1#Post498822

I am sure if you ask them not to rush and explain plainly a few specific things you need to know, they will probably do it.

Myself, I started with this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqGvnE1HNqo&t=876s

It is easy to understand and Joanne is explaining things from perspective of song writer.

Best regards,
Misha.

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Originally Posted By: sac
I appreciate this very much, thanks for the "headup" words. The thing is, I`m not a native english speaker and a lot of terms in the vid`s and hints I don`t understand, so there`s two things to go over. I`ll be back, I`m sure.


Sac,

What is your native language? There are many other language forums beside English. Scroll through the to the bottom of the "Forum List" to see what other languages are available. Many users here would be very happy to use Google Translate for you if we only knew what language that you prefer.

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