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v2.7 just showed up as an update in my Plugin Boutique account. Downloaded. Installation next. Just wondering what it's going to take for them to create a major version upgrade that I'll have to pay for. Many other software developers would have it on v4, at least. Ca-ching. Ca-ching. Ca-ching. Points to the devs!
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OK, someone has to do it...
Scaler 2.7 drops November 3rd.
It’s a mammoth update with some really nice new features.
Scaler 2.7 is set for release with the following changes:
Changelog 2.7.0
• New features
Add Live Sync ability to keep other Scaler instances synchronised in realtime.
Add new modes for Parallel Harmony to generate progressions by thirds, fourths, and fifths.
Add Auto Play in browser (Section A) to enable quick preview of chord sets.
Add Multi Voice Output (Multi Midi Out) option to split each note of chords onto separate channels.
Add Global UI Velocity controls to change the strength of MIDI notes played through the interface.
Add ability to consolidate chords from multiple patterns into a single chord set file.
• New Content
Sequence ‘Moods’.
80s, Classical, HipHop, LoFi Chord Sets.
Fixed Bass Chord Sets (Triad and Extended).
Orchestral Divisi Chord Sets (Intended to work with Multi Midi Out).
Experimental Phrases
Experimental Performances
Internal Orchestral Bass Instrument
Internal LoFi Instrument
• Improvements
Make undo/redo buttons always visible in Section C.
Clear Undo/Redo history when clearing state or when importing a state file.
Fix Daw-Sync timing causing playback to start early in Cubase.
Fix Play-Quantize offset calculation.
Remember the last selected scale on circle of fifths in the Voicing Editor. Thanks... I just downloaded the Scaler 2.7 update file, (6439_Scaler-2.7.0.pkg) and have not figured out how to open it to view the file's contents... MS Word & Notepad say it's too large to open... Any Help Please. How do I install this update?
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Thanks... I just downloaded the Scaler 2.7 update file, (6439_Scaler-2.7.0.pkg) and have not figured out how to open it to view the file's contents...
MS Word & Notepad say it's too large to open... Any Help Please.
How do I install this update?
Common problem for me in the past. The update comes in two versions MAC and PC. It is more than likely you downloaded the wrong one for your system. The PC version is named 6440_Scaler-2.7.0.zip. You have the Mac version Is this the problem?? If so, go back and get the right one.
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Thanks... I just downloaded the Scaler 2.7 update file, (6439_Scaler-2.7.0.pkg) and have not figured out how to open it to view the file's contents...
MS Word & Notepad say it's too large to open... Any Help Please.
How do I install this update?
Common problem for me in the past. The update comes in two versions MAC and PC. It is more than likely you downloaded the wrong one for your system. The PC version is named 6440_Scaler-2.7.0.zip. You have the Mac version Is this the problem?? If so, go back and get the right one. I'll double check, and let you know asap.
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Thanks... I just downloaded the Scaler 2.7 update file, (6439_Scaler-2.7.0.pkg) and have not figured out how to open it to view the file's contents...
MS Word & Notepad say it's too large to open... Any Help Please.
How do I install this update?
Common problem for me in the past. The update comes in two versions MAC and PC. It is more than likely you downloaded the wrong one for your system. The PC version is named 6440_Scaler-2.7.0.zip. You have the Mac version Is this the problem?? If so, go back and get the right one. I'll double check, and let you know asap. That was it... Successful update... Thanks so much.
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What can I say, I can't stop now, I feel a bit responsible.  2.7.2 (available January 5th, 2022) Changelog 2.7.2 Filter SysEx messages from ScalerControl on M1 (improves Logic Pro X MIDI FX on Apple Silicon). Handle bind velocity based on default or custom chord velocity. Prevent a crash with the next user set selector when the folder is empty. Fix a crash when sending too many change scale commands to multiple instances simultaneously. Fix an issue causing the auto-play to jump to the scale playback when browsing chord sets.
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I dub thee Sir Scaler.
But actually, thanks for keeping us informed. It appears that Scaler continues to improve rapidly. and I can see how it might help some folks.
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Thanks Dan! (I still dunno quite what to make of it but I like it!)
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Thanx Dan.
Got it DLed and installed.
Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?
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Mario, since I know you know music theory cold, and have superb experience with MIDI music production, could you take a moment and tell me what Scaler does FOR YOU?
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Mario, since I know you know music theory cold, and have superb experience with MIDI music production, could you take a moment and tell me what Scaler does FOR YOU? Hi Matt, The main thing it does for me is to give me different chords and chord progressions that I might not of thought of using BiaB. Being able to select chords from a different points of view does help, i.e. scales, modes, artist, genre, etc. I have tried the melody function and it is on par with BiaB's Melodist. That is it will not give me a complete melody line that I find usable, just like the Melodist. I doubt no program will do that for me. To be truthful I rarely use Scaler. I bought it when it was on sale and hoped it would do a lot more for me. I have worked with it and watched the videos but I keep going back to BiaB. It might be beneficial to both of us if you asked the same question to a power user.
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Thanks. No, you answered it to my satisfaction. I hadn’t even considered the melody line, only the chord progression, and you said it can help give you ideas you might not have considered. Very good.
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Mario, how do I get those chord progressions into BIAB without typing them?
I also bought Scaler when it was on sale mostly because Dan likes it and I like Dan so...
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Mario, how do I get those chord progressions into BIAB without typing them?
I also bought Scaler when it was on sale mostly because Dan likes it and I like Dan so... Most of the time I type them in. On occasion I will bring the chord progression into my DAW Studio One Pro 6, lets say a chord a measure. Then In BiaB I will quickly put in a chord a measure, usually the same chord in each measure. My DAW I will convert the BiaB tracks to the correct chords via the chord track. Note that I do this in MIDI. It should work with RTs but you may get some artifacts doing it this way. One of these days I'm gonna bring the chord progression into my DAW as block chords, extract the MIDI track from the DAW, then insert it into BiaB and have BiaB figure out the chords. So I ask other Scaler users how do you get your chords into BiaB?
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So I ask other Scaler users how do you get your chords into BiaB?
Unfortuantely, there are issues with this.  Scaler will write any chord progession or sequence to a .mid file. BIAB will Import a .mid file and interpret the chords to the chord chart. It should be that easy, but... BIAB just struggles in assigning the chord names correctly. Even simple triads get messed up and key signatures. Don't even try chord extensions or slash chords. I just spent an hour trying to illustrate something positive in a video. BIAB was just not in the mood to cooperate today. Even with a RTFS, it was an effort in frustration. Bottom line BIAB and Scaler do not play well together in regards to exchanging specific detailed chord designations and voicings via copy/paste or export/import. In Scaler you can specify the exact notes and order of notes you want to play. Meanwhile, BIAB will play what "it" composes based on the Chord names you enter. I am afraid the fundamental premise of the two programs differ in this regard. That is why you need both. 
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Thanx Dan for this information. Now I don't have to try that experiment I mentioned as you have already done it.
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Yes, we've had forms of this discussion in various environments. The problem is the lack of chord info support in MIDI (even in the new MIDI 2).
BIAB cannot be expected to interpret the notes into exactly the same chords as were sent, yet alone get voicings right. Now, if Scaler could export in Music XML format, then we might have something. Has anyone asked Scaler if they could do that?
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Has anyone asked Scaler if they could do that?
This is an ongoing discussion thread in the Scaler Forum. https://forum.scalerplugin.com/t/musicxml-integration/7432I am not sure what the consensous is, or if XML it is coming or not. But based on my morings exercise, BIAB could do a better job in importing and naming the chords in a .MID file even if it is not able to play them as named.
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Does Scaler 2.0 support MusicXML?(ChatGPT:) I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with a software called Scaler 2.0. Could you provide more information about what this software does and what you are trying to do with it? (Me:)
https://www.scalerplugin.com/(ChatGPT:) Scaler is a music composition software that helps users find and play chord progressions. It does not support MusicXML, which is a file format for representing music notation and other music-related data. Instead, Scaler can import and export MIDI files, which can be used to exchange data between digital audio workstations and other music software. If you have a MusicXML file that you would like to use with Scaler, you may be able to convert it to a MIDI file using a separate software tool or online service.
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