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My Filipino wife's uncle just died in New York from Covid-19. His Filipino wife and daughter work in the hospital system. One in ER. We don't know the fate of the rest of the family yet. It suddenly made it all very personal.


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Mario,

For the ump-teenth time, its not about politics. I don't trust Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Socialists, Libertarians, etc. I always vote for whoever I believe will do the best job. Absent that, I try to pick the one I think will do the least damage.

I've voted for far more Republicans for president than I have for Democrats. I don't accept the "politics" accusation for one minute since I know it isn't true.

For me, "politics" is when you tow the party line and support them regardless of how atrocious their actions are. Its also about not being willing to admit you screwed up when you help put someone in office that literally is putting your country and the world in danger because of their incompetence.

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Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker
Mario,

For the ump-teenth time, its not about politics. I don't trust Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Socialists, Libertarians, etc. I always vote for whoever I believe will do the best job. Absent that, I try to pick the one I think will do the least damage.

I've voted for far more Republicans for president than I have for Democrats. I don't accept the "politics" accusation for one minute since I know it isn't true.

For me, "politics" is when you tow the party line and support them regardless of how atrocious their actions are. Its also about not being willing to admit you screwed up when you help put someone in office that literally is putting your country and the world in danger because of their incompetence.


Bob,

In all due respect anytime one comes out against a political figure, especially the US President or any countries leader, then it is political.

I despised the last four presidents and many Dems, Reps, and independents today. You don't see me posting about them on a music site do you.

In my view it is political and it should not be allowed here. But I will respond if I see the need.

peace


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I know it's a time of angst for all right now but let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a global music forum and not a USA-specific platform for raucous politics.

I completely agree. Well said Noel. It's definitely not all about us in the U.S.




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Mario,

So we can't speak out about someone who has mishandled a pandemic and now has a death toll in the USA of an estimated 25,073 per Bing on a thread titled Covid 19 without being accused of engaging in politics?

Peace to you too my friend. Stay safe.

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Noel,

I would fully expect and even hope that you would tell me to mind my business if I were to speak out in support of one of your leaders that you and millions of others in your country believed was not only ruining your country but also putting millions of lives at stake.

Take care.

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Ever tune into a performance where the performer plays the same predictable set-list every show, show after show, week after week, month after month, year after year . . . boring show after boring show? Am I the only one who screams at the tube, PLEASE LEARN A NEW SONG?

But I digress, or do I? No need for answers, just rhetorical questions.

Later,

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Danny,

Have you ever noticed how some people pin a flag to the wall behind them and point a finger at the camera because they believe it shows they love their country?

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Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker
Noel,

I would fully expect and even hope that you would tell me to mind my business if I were to speak out in support of one of your leaders that you and millions of others in your country believed was not only ruining your country but also putting millions of lives at stake.

Take care.


Noel would have the common sense not to do it here.


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Noel,

I would fully expect and even hope that you would tell me to mind my business if I were to speak out in support of one of your leaders that you and millions of others in your country believed was not only ruining your country but also putting millions of lives at stake.

Take care.


Noel would have the common sense not to do it here.


I didn't start the thread and I'm commenting on the topic at hand.

Common sense makes me compelled to do that. If PG wanted it taken down, they would have done so already.

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This forum is for music-related discussions that aren't covered in other forums.

Well...we all can read the above. Based on the fact that people all over the world are passing away by the thousands with no real end in site perhaps we 'should' disregard the normal use of this part of the forum and be able to talk about Covid-19. Plus anyone who is offended can log off.

For sure we should condemn Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron for all the mistakes real and imagined. And what that guy who never combs his hair....old whats his name from England. You would think the Queen would have a word with him.
Giuseppe Conte has really made a mess of things so I have been told but I have not been to Italy sense last year so I am not sure.

As for all the sheep and lemmings that can not think for them self, blaming the leader of the country for their condition deserve just what they get.

As I live here in the USA most of the time, I could care less what Trump or any government knuckle head has to say. They actually don't control me. I put on a good face mask the first day I was aware that Covid-19 exist and so did every Dr. who had to deal with it. Perhaps sheep just don't know what to do in a Pandemic or Hurricane or other disaster and are totally dependent on people like their national leaders.

This Corona virus really sucks for me and my wife as both of us are way over seventy. What that means is we will have to ware a mask and gloves and stay away from people until a vaccine is produced in a year or two or perhaps never.


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Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker
Mario,

So we can't speak out about someone who has mishandled a pandemic and now has a death toll in the USA of an estimated 25,073 per Bing on a thread titled Covid 19 without being accused of engaging in politics?

Peace to you too my friend. Stay safe.


You and others think he mishandled the pandemic but me and others think he is doing a great job. But you don't see me or others bragging about his performance on a music site.

Peace and stay healthy and safe my friend.


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Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker


I didn't start the thread and I'm commenting on the topic at hand.

Common sense makes me compelled to do that. If PG wanted it taken down, they would have done so already.


I was just stating that Noel would have the common sense not to do it here.

Troll on.


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HearToLearn,

I've already been accused on this thread of being possessed by demons in a now deleted post from earlier today.

Being accused of being a troll is laughable after that. grin

LOL

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HearToLearn,

I've already been accused on this thread of being possessed by demons in a now deleted post from earlier today.

Being accused of being a troll is laughable after that. grin

LOL


To set the record straight I do not think that you are a troll or you are possessed by demons. I believe that you are a person with strong feelings against this president and that you have the right to express those feelings. I just believe this is not the forum to express them.


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To set the record straight I do not think that you are a troll


Also, to set the record straight, nor do I. Further explanation later.

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or you are possessed by demons.


I don't either.

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I believe that you are a person with strong feelings against this president and that you have the right to express those feelings.


Totally agree.

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I just believe this is not the forum to express them.

Totally agree again.

However, because I don't believe it's relevant to what this forum is about, to continue with it to this extent is troll-ish behavior. That is why I said "troll on" instead of calling anyone a troll.

Now, some may argue you can't do that without being a troll, I would argue I strum strings and play chords on a guitar, BARELY. To call both Bob and I guitarists would be an insult to Bob. wink If someone asked if I play guitar, I don't even say "A little." It's a "nope" from me.

Anyway, um....carry on, I guess? And I'm not calling anyone "Carrie" either. wink


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Not really concerned with "the likes of people like that Bob". because "I do love my country".

OK your turn, let me guess another I hate Trump Song coming up. laugh

Ooops, Sorry I just changed the channel.




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Holy crap! I get busy with taxes and don't visit this thread for two days and THIS happens??

FlatpickerBob, what in the hell are you doing dude? Somebody coined the phrase Trump Derangement Syndrome a few years ago and while I thought it was funny, never took it seriously. Now I am.

Lambada, a respected member of our family here, just lost a family member and is concerned about the others. My condolence go out to you man and I really hope everybody else is good.

Lets talk about the virus, what's the latest with it, what are the projections going forward.

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Not really concerned with "the likes of people like that Bob". because "I do love my country".

OK your turn, let me guess another I hate Trump Song coming up. laugh

Ooops, Sorry I just changed the channel.






Danny,

You might also want to change your pic. It screams of Alex Jones.

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Lets talk about the virus, what's the latest with it, what are the projections going forward.

Bob



My heart goes out to Lambada and his family.

I've got a question, ... how do we talk about the virus in the USA without talking about the person who claims to have absolute control over all of the states and whether or not they lift the travel and working bans?

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