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this kid is absolutely amazing #632503 12/26/20 03:36 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,129 NYC J Joe V OP Expert
OP Joe V Expert J Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,129 NYC	...some prodigies put their playing and flash above the music - this kid keeps the song at the top as it should be.... https://themusicman.uk/charles-berthoud/?fbclid=IwAR1Da6FUU5dHlriaAfKyzV2vvnaVYa-I9yYjOZrgy8h7amK8cWBWfIV9YhA He's got a version of Mad Mad World that's just amazing. The only guy I heard use the tunning pegs like that was Adrian Legg - though I'm not sure, but I think Adiran Legg didn't have the 'auto' tuners when he changed strings. Last edited by Joe V; 12/26/20 03:42 AM.

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #632506 12/26/20 03:46 AM Off-Topic
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,915 Melbourne, Australia	I watched. Most of it was a blur. Amazing, sensational talent. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #632520 12/26/20 04:43 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,450 Hamlin NY	That guy is freaking amazing! I never heard a bass played like that! I miss the old time stars. You know the ones who wore clothes and had talent! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #632698 12/27/20 02:11 AM Off-Topic
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MountainSide Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,395 Lake Keowee, South Carolina	Holy smokes! Never seen anything like that! Where the heck did this guy come from!!??? Jeff Win11, Intel i7 7700K 4.2Ghz, 32Gb RAM, 2x1Tb HD, 500Gb NVMe, BIAB/RB 2024, MOTU 828MK3 audio, MOTU Midi Express, Yamaha Montage 7, DX7II, TX802, Motif XS Rack, Roland Fantom XR Rack, Oberheim Matrix 1000, VoiceLive3 Extreme, Kontakt 6, SampleTank 4.3

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #632725 12/27/20 04:01 AM Off-Topic
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eddie1261 Unregistered E	This guy has been on youtube for like 7 years now. 550k followers.

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #632748 12/27/20 05:24 AM Off-Topic
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OP Joe V Expert J Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,129 NYC	So - that style of playing - has been around for quite some time. I was first introduced and blown away by it through Michael Hedges. In my mind, he was the pioneer and many of his compositions are the best in their class. I'm not sure who was either doing, or popularizing, that style of playing before him. You might say Stanley Jordan was one of the first - but he did it on an electric guitar, playing it more like a piano. Moving the technique over to the Acoustic guitar, altering the tunings, adding lots of harmonics and 'slam' harmonics introduced a whole new sound. One of my favorite tunes from Hedges was Arial Boundaries, and a few others on that album by the same name. One things is for sure - very few players can do more than one of such idiosyncratic styles. The guitar really is like many different instruments in one - when you consider how different it can sound when played with virtuosity in a "niche" style. Anybody else out there a Hedges fan, or a fan of other guitar players using that style ? Also - does anybody out there play any of these types of compositions on their instrument ? I'd love to hear how you got into that, and what is was like to get that style under your fingers even for one composition.

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #632756 12/27/20 06:08 AM Off-Topic
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eddie1261 Unregistered E	Isn't there some famous/well know banjo song that uses the quick detuning similar to this? I saw Livingston Taylor do it but I can't remember anything more about it. If you go back further into this guy's youtube channel you will hear some great stuff. There is one called saomething like "The hardest solo ever" that was a great piece of funk. Thumbing, slapping, tapping, hammer-ons and pull offs... all of it. If you don't know about Victor Wooten, check him out too. Wooten is from another planet completely.

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #633024 12/28/20 12:24 PM Off-Topic
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OP Joe V Expert J Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,129 NYC	Victor Wooten - yes...amazing - you just turned me on to him Eddie. Share a few of your other favorites - any instrument, not just bass. And the rest of you also : )

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #633245 12/29/20 02:31 PM Off-Topic
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OP Joe V Expert J Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,129 NYC	Haven't heard from any Michael Hedges fans out there - but just for conversation - here are some tunings to his different songs, and a link of Andy McKee doing Hedges Aerial Boundaires "right". I would have linked Hedges - but the shots of left and right hands in this video are perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymd0DuZ3m0w "The 2nd Law" A1A2D3G3B3D4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Aerial Boundaries" C2C3D3G3A3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Aerial Boundaries" C2C3D3G3A3D4 Windham Hill in Concert 1986 Windham Hill NTSC Video Cassette "Aerial Boundaries" C2C3D3G3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "After the Gold Rush" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "All Along the Watchtower" D2A2E3E3A3A3 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "All Along the Watchtower" D2A2E3E3A3A3 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "All Along the Watchtower" D2A2E3E3A3A3 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Another Forest Walk" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "Arrowhead" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Aura Muunta" C2G2C3F3G3B3 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Aurora/Nevermore" The Shape of the Land 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Baal T'shuvah" Bb1F2Bb2C3F3Bb3 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Baal T'shuvah" Bb1F2Bb2C3F3Bb3 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Baby Toes" D2A3D3G3C4D4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 The Shape of the Land 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Because It's There" G1Bb1C2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Windham Hill in Concert 1986 Windham Hill NTSC Video Cassette "Bensusan" C2G2D3G3A3C4 Aerial Boundaries Capo at III 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Breakfast in the Field" C2G2D3D3A3E4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Breakfast in the Field" C2G2D3D3A3E4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Breakfast in the Field" C2G2D3D3A3E4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Carol Jean" Santabear's First Christmas 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Chava's Song" G1F#1B1A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3D4 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Come Together" D2G2D3G3G3D4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Come Together" D2G2D3G3G3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Communicate" E2A2D3E3A3D4 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "Dirge" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Dirge" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Double Planet" G1F#1C#2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3C#4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Double Planet" G1F#1C#2A1D2 E2A2D3E3A3C#4 Santabear's First Christmas 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Dream Beach" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Dream Beach" Summer Solstice 1997 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Eleven Small Cubs" C2G2D3G3B3D4 Santabear's First Christmas 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Eleven Small Roaches" C2G2D3G3B3D4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Face Yourself" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The First Cutting" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Follow Through" B1F#2C#3F#3F#3F#3 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "Follow Through" B1F#2C#3F#3F#3F#3 Windham Hill in Concert 1986 Windham Hill NTSC Video Cassette "Forest Walk" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "Free Swinging Soul" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Free Swinging Soul" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Funky Avocado" B1A2D3G3A3D4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Funky Avocado" B1A2D3G3A3D4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Funky Avocado" B1A2D3G3A3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Fusion of the Five Elements" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Gimme Shelter" C#2E2B2E3E3B3 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Gospel of Mary/The Holy Flame" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Gospel" A1A2D3F#3A3A3 Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "Gospel" A1A2D3F#3A3A3 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Guardian's Trust" The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "The Happy Couple" G1B2E3F#3A3D4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Holiday" C2G2D3G3A3A3 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Hot Type" A1B2E3F#3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "i carry your heart" Bb1F2C3Eb3F3Bb3 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "I Want You" C2G2D3G3A3D4 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "I'm Coming Home" D2A2D3G3B3B3 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "If I Needed Someone" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Guitar Sampler Volume II 1991 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ignition" D2F2C3G3A3D4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Ignition" D2F2C3G3A3D4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "India" A1E2B3D3E3A3 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "Jade Stalk" Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Java Man" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Java Man" Sounds of Wood & Steel 1998 Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Jealous Tunnel/About Face" D2A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Jitterboogie (family version)" D2A2D3G3A3C4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Jitterboogie" Db2Ab2Db3Gb3Ab3B3 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Jitterboogie" Db2Ab2Db3Gb3Ab3B3 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Larry's Instrumental" Santabear's First Christmas 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Layover" D2A2C3G3C4E4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Lenono" F2A2D3G3B3E4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Like a Rolling Stone" Bb1Eb2Bb2Bb2Eb3G3 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "A Love Bizarre" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Magic Farmer" C2F2C3G3A3E4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Menage a Trois" B1F#2C#3D3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "A Midwinter Night's Dream" D2A2D3G3B3E4 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "The Naked Stalk" D2A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Nomad Land" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Oracle" D2A2E3F3A3E4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Oracle" D2A2E3F3A3E4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Out on the Parkway" E2G#2E3F#3B3B3 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Peg Leg Speed King" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Phoenix Fire" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Pinball Wizard" B1F#2C#3E3A3A3 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Point A" E2A2D3G3B3E4 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Point B" E2A2D3G3B3E4 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Prelude to Cello Suite #1 in G Major" A Winter's Solstice II 1988 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Prelude" The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "Prelude" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "Promised Land" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ragamuffin" D2A2D3G3A3D4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Ragamuffin" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ragamuffin" D2A2D3G3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ready or Not" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ready or Not" C2G2D3G3G3G3 Santabear's First Christmas 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Rickover's Dream" C2G2D3G3B3C4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Rickover's Dream" C2G2D3G3B3C4 An Evening with Windham Hill Live 1983 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Rickover's Dream" C2G2D3G3B3C4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Rikki's Shuffle" D2A2E3G3B3B3 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 The Artist's Profile: Michael Hedges 1996 Ecliptic Productions NTSC Video Cassette "Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Guitar Sampler Volume II 1991 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ritual Dance" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Road Music" E2A2D3G3A3C4 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "Road to Return" The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "The Rootwitch" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot One half-step low 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Rough Wind in Oklahoma" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Running Blind" D2A2D3G3B3D4 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Santabear's First Christmas" Santabear's First Christmas 1986 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Sapphire" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Scenes (on the road to shrub 2)" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Scenes (on the road to shrub 2)" B1A2D3E3A3B3 Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "She Drives Me Crazy" C2C3D3F#3A3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Shell Shock Venus" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Silent Anticipations" D2A2D3G3C4E4 Windham Hill in Concert 1986 Windham Hill NTSC Video Cassette "Sister Soul/Kemberly" C#2G#2C#3F#3G#3C4 Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "Sister Soul" C#2G#2C#3F#3G#3C4 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc "Sofa No. 1" D2G2D3E3A3C#4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Song of the Spirit Farmer" Taproot 1989 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Spare Change" F2A2E3G3A3D4 An Evening with Windham Hill Live 1983 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Spare Change" F2A2E3G3A3D4 Aerial Boundaries 1984 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Spring Buds" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Streamlined Man" F2G2D3G3G3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Streamlined Man" F2G2D3G3G3D4 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Theme from HATARI!" C#2G#2D#3E3G#3D#4 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Tomorrow Never knows" A1A2D3F#3A3A3 Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Torched" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Two Days Old" D2G2D3G3Bb3C4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Two Days Old" D2G2D3G3Bb3C4 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Unexpected Visitor" C2G2E3G3B3D4 Breakfast in the Field 1981 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "The Unexpected Visitor" C2G2E3G3B3D4 Strings of Steel 1993 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ursa Major" Torched 1999 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Ursa Major" A Winter's Solstice VI 1997 Windham Hill Compact Disc "Watching My Life Go By" D2A2D3G3C4C4 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Water Music" Princess Scargo and the Birthday Pumpkin 1993 BMG/Rabbit Ears Compact Disc "What Child is This?" Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "When I Was 4" Oracle 1996 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Woman of the World" D2A2D3E3B3A3 Live on the Double Planet 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "Woman of the World" D2A2D3E3B3A3 Windham Hill in Concert 1986 Windham Hill NTSC Video Cassette "Woman of the World" D2A2D3E3B3A3 Watching My Life Go By 1987 BMG/Windham Hill Compact Disc "You Can Have Anything You Want" G1F2Bb2Eb3G3C4 The Road to Return 1994 BMG/WINDHAM HILL/HIGH STREET Compact Disc

Re: this kid is absolutely amazing Joe V #633267 12/29/20 03:41 PM Off-Topic
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chulaivet1966 Expert Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,313 The Heartland....Kansas	Originally Posted By: Joe V Anybody else out there a Hedges fan, or a fan of other guitar players using that style ? Just a quick sidebar here Joe V: I was a mild fan of the Windham Label back in 1982 IIRC. I saw MH and George Winston (piano) at a small concert at Stanford. TBH....and not to diminish his skill set, that style of guitar playing works for about one song in a row. Just not appealing to me for any extended listening period. Will Ackerman was on the same label and I much preferred his music/playing style. I've listened to his first couple albums countless times and they never got weary to my ears. Back to topic amigos.... https://www.soundclick.com/bands3/default.cfm?bandID=897733 https://www.youtube.com/user/chulaivet/videos

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