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Hello Folks, Here's the latest song from Robert, Scott & I. Scott plays lead guitar and has a fair bit of space to stretch out within the confines of this one. He also mastered the track. Robert sings the verses and verse harmonies as well as the chorus. I play bass and some additional guitar bits here'n'there. Band In A Box provides the excellent drum track as well as being the writing, structuring and collaboration tool for the song. Some Mellotron, courtesy of files made from actual Mellotron tapes, was cut'n'pasted into the mix too. Une Riposte A simple enough tale of modern times that evolves over three verses. Lyrics: Enmity endures While pain inures The victim demurs And avarice procures While enmity endures Agent provocateurs Grubby overtures Historian abjures Authority assures Still enmity endures When you Speak out about them The ranks close and the hand shake prevails When you Speak up once again The spike of power impales Stealing breath as you inhale When you Speak out Hope still endures Experience inures Aggressor demurs And courage procures While enmity endures Truth's provocateurs Payoff overtures Magistrate abjures Solidarity assures Still enmity endures When you Speak out about them The ranks thin and the hand shake reveals When you Speak up once again Expose the secret deals And the power it conceals When you Speak out Enmity endures Speaking truth inures Establishment demurs Hearing truth procures While enmity endures Expose provocateurs Cultural overtures Minister abjures Authority assures Still enmity endures When you Speak out about them The ranks empty The Secret hand shake fails When you Speak up once again Restore balance to the scales Justice peeks through the veil When you Speak out Speak out Speak out Speak Since French was used for the title, (though riposte is also part of the English language), I thought I'd provide a translation to match. L’in incomprétent perdure Alors que la douleur s’assure La victime s’insurge Et l’avarice procure Alors que l’in in incomprédation perdure Agent provocateurs Ouvertures crassantes Abjures historiennes L’autorité assure L’in in incomprédation perdure encore Lorsque vous Parlez-en Les rangs se rapprochent et le tremblement de la main prévaut Lorsque vous Exprimez-vous une fois de plus La pointe des empales de puissance Voler du souffle pendant que vous inspirez Lorsque vous parler dehors L’espoir perdure L’expérience s’assure L’agresseur s’en agache Et le courage procure Alors que l’in in incomprédation perdure Les provocateurs de la vérité Ouvertures de paiement Abjures de magistrat La solidarité assure L’in in incomprédation perdure encore Lorsque vous Parlez-en Les rangs minces et le tremblement de la main révèle Lorsque vous Exprimez-vous une fois de plus Exposer les transactions secrètes Et le pouvoir qu’il cache Lorsque vous parler dehors L’in incomprétent perdure Dire la vérité s’assure L’établissement s’en a-t-il Entendre la vérité procure Alors que l’in in incomprédation perdure Exposer les provocateurs Ouvertures culturelles Le ministre abjures L’autorité assure L’in in incomprédation perdure encore Lorsque vous Parlez-en Les rangs vides Le shake de main secret échoue Lorsque vous Exprimez-vous une fois de plus Rétablir l’équilibre aux balances La justice jette un coup d’œil à travers le voile Lorsque vous parler dehors parler dehors parler dehors parler Vijandschap houdt stand Terwijl pijn Het slachtoffer demurs En hebzucht koopt Terwijl vijandschap blijft bestaan Agent provocateurs Groezelige ouvertures Historicus abjures Autoriteit verzekert Nog steeds vijandschap blijft bestaan Wanneer u Spreek over hen De rangen sluiten en de handschudden overheerst Wanneer u Spreek nog eens. De piek van machtsimpales Adem stelen terwijl je inademt Wanneer u spreken buiten Hoop blijft bestaan Ervaring met verzekeren Agressor demurs En moed verwerft Terwijl vijandschap blijft bestaan De provocateurs van de waarheid Payoff ouvertures Magistraat abjures Solidariteit verzekert Nog steeds vijandschap blijft bestaan Wanneer u Spreek over hen De rangen dun en de hand schudden onthult Wanneer u Spreek nog eens. Leg de geheime deals bloot En de kracht die het verbergt. Wanneer u spreken buiten Vijandschap houdt stand Sprekende waarheid verzekert Vestiging demurs Het horen van waarheid verkrijgt Terwijl vijandschap blijft bestaan Provocateurs blootstellen Culturele ouvertures Minister abjures Autoriteit verzekert Nog steeds vijandschap blijft bestaan Wanneer u Spreek over hen De rangen leeg De Geheime handschudden faalt Wanneer u Spreek nog eens. Balans herstellen naar de weegschaal Justitie gluurt door de sluier Wanneer u spreken buiten spreken buiten spreken buiten spreken This track took some time to come to light as I continued to annoy Scott. The poor chap would produce a master and the clarity of that would allow me to hear a click, breath, grunt, string scrape etc. that I hadn't previously and I'd ask for a revision after I'd addressed the perceived problem. I'm an annoying old man, I know. Your comments, suggestions and recommendations are welcome and may well be attempted.
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This is a great collaboration. My only problem was hearing the lyrics. IHMO I believe they should be more up front. This is just my opinion and others may or may not agree.
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Hi Ray, Scott and Robbert,
I heard your wonderful song. At first I would describe it as some kind of epos about getting an answer to what you are not allowed to say. or something like that. But the word 'epos' is not the proper word. Robert can give me a hand on a synonym I bet.
At first something technically about the mix. I don't hear cracs, hisses or whatever Ray hears / heard, but what Mario said was what I thought. The words cannot be heard well enough, while they are very much worth listening to. So put op their volume, I would say.
I really liked the song, even though it is haunting in a way. Well, but French like that...
As Dutch people.
The leadguitar worked out wonderful in this song. It supported the vocals very well. At least, that is what I think.
So, no wonder I enjoyed it. Listened severall times to it, but with the lyrics at hand and (lot of times) Google translate (not for that French language).
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Well, Mr Cochrane you did not mention your vocals in the post but they work very well weaving in/out with Robert. And your bass and guitar performances provide the glue for a great mix.
Scott's guitar is, as always, excellent and those wahs are extra cool.
Endures, inures, demurs, procures, endures, provocateurs, overtures, abjures, assures and endures. Great! Cool the way you used those rhymes for three different statements in the verses.
We think the vocals fit well in the mix. The entire production has a very effective layered feel and all the vocals have a good space in that.
Kudos to Scott re the mix/mastering.
It all yields an epic soundstage!
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Man, you guys sure have fun --audibly apparent. This is quite an outstanding collab. At first I agreed with Mario in that the vocal could be more up front, but as the song progressed the vocal sounded mysterious and even hypnotic, which seemed perfect for the song. So well done, Robert. The lyrics are really cool:
"When you
Speak out about them
The ranks close
and the hand shake prevails
When you
Speak up once again
The spike of power impales
Stealing breath as you inhale
When you
Speak
out"
Dang, that's good. Scott, your guitar playing is as always very engaging. I love your taste for the song. Ray, what can I say? You are that favorite mentor I've never actually met, but your influence is HUGE.
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Ray, Scott, Robert, Spirit Level!!
Awesome Music. Y'all have certainly "found your sound"!!! The band has evolved to be a truly cohesive unit.
An excellent Dramatic Rock write. Robert at his best!
Awesome vocal. Easy to think (at first) that it needs to "come up in the mix", but it doesn't. It sits perfectly. Careful listening allows every word to come through. Mixed perfectly for the style.
In fact, the whole mix is REALLY well done. The balance is superb. Drums sound great. Ray's bass is punchy and clear and perfectly Bass-y. Scott's guitar shines! Everything about this WORKS!!
Great job. Y'all are on fire! (on my 4th listen! - that says it all...)
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Very trippy. Cool, swirling sounds. Great mix. Everyone hits their marks, as is par for the course with you guys. A 1984 claustrophobic feel to it, which I think the message conveys, if I am hearing it correctly. Good use of BIAB too. Good job!
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This is a great collaboration. My only problem was hearing the lyrics. IHMO I believe they should be more up front. This is just my opinion and others may or may not agree. Thanks Mario, my only problem was hearing my voice. The vocal level is well up on where it would be by my preferences but , even so, a vocal sitting on top of this mix would seem weird to me.
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Hi Ray, Scott and Robbert,
I heard your wonderful song. At first I would describe it as some kind of epos about getting an answer to what you are not allowed to say. or something like that. But the word 'epos' is not the proper word. Robert can give me a hand on a synonym I bet.
At first something technically about the mix. I don't hear cracs, hisses or whatever Ray hears / heard, but what Mario said was what I thought. The words cannot be heard well enough, while they are very much worth listening to. So put op their volume, I would say.
I really liked the song, even though it is haunting in a way. Well, but French like that...
As Dutch people.
The leadguitar worked out wonderful in this song. It supported the vocals very well. At least, that is what I think.
So, no wonder I enjoyed it. Listened severall times to it, but with the lyrics at hand and (lot of times) Google translate (not for that French language).
Hans
Hans, thanks. Connected epic poems on an heroic theme - well stanzas describing a modern malaise and how it is being dealt with perhaps. Yes, Scott had ample opportunity to stretch his wings and he did so wonderfully. The lead links sections and provides fabulous melodic phrases. I dropped in a little of the Dutch translation for you.
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Well, Mr Cochrane you did not mention your vocals in the post but they work very well weaving in/out with Robert. And your bass and guitar performances provide the glue for a great mix.
Scott's guitar is, as always, excellent and those wahs are extra cool.
Endures, inures, demurs, procures, endures, provocateurs, overtures, abjures, assures and endures. Great! Cool the way you used those rhymes for three different statements in the verses.
We think the vocals fit well in the mix. The entire production has a very effective layered feel and all the vocals have a good space in that.
Kudos to Scott re the mix/mastering.
It all yields an epic soundstage!
J&B
Thank you J&B, My parts are just that - parts of the whole. Scott's axe wielding harmed no trees but certainly built a landscape in the song. Robert's clear voice really suits the declamatory verses. Thank you very much for your kind words.
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Man, you guys sure have fun --audibly apparent. This is quite an outstanding collab. At first I agreed with Mario in that the vocal could be more up front, but as the song progressed the vocal sounded mysterious and even hypnotic, which seemed perfect for the song. So well done, Robert. The lyrics are really cool:
Dang, that's good. Scott, your guitar playing is as always very engaging. I love your taste for the song. Ray, what can I say? You are that favorite mentor I've never actually met, but your influence is HUGE.
Hello Marty & thanks. This was a pretty easy process of recording except when I repeatedly stalled things by hearing stuff that no one else seemed to notice and then spent time "fixing". I'm glad you liked the lyrics, the verses are set up, through the repetition, to have a drone like effect. Thanks again.
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Ray, Scott, Robert, Spirit Level!!
Awesome Music. Y'all have certainly "found your sound"!!! The band has evolved to be a truly cohesive unit.
An excellent Dramatic Rock write. Robert at his best!
Awesome vocal. Easy to think (at first) that it needs to "come up in the mix", but it doesn't. It sits perfectly. Careful listening allows every word to come through. Mixed perfectly for the style.
In fact, the whole mix is REALLY well done. The balance is superb. Drums sound great. Ray's bass is punchy and clear and perfectly Bass-y. Scott's guitar shines! Everything about this WORKS!!
Great job. Y'all are on fire! (on my 4th listen! - that says it all...)
fj FJ, Thank you. I'm sure I speak for Scott & Robert in saying ta muchly for the glowing review.
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Very trippy. Cool, swirling sounds. Great mix. Everyone hits their marks, as is par for the course with you guys. A 1984 claustrophobic feel to it, which I think the message conveys, if I am hearing it correctly. Good use of BIAB too. Good job! jptX3, You read it well but the dystopia is real and current. Yes BIAB was a crucial writing tool and the drum track glues everything really well. Scott & Robert really hit their straps, don't they? Thanks.
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Thanks everyone for the awesome comments. This was a very cool project to work on. To me it felt like multiple stories happening at the same time. Overtime they all came together and developed into this cool song. Ray worked very hard and did an excellent job on the mix. I think Robert and Ray both did an excellent job on the vocals. So glad you liked the guitar parts. Your comments are very much appreciated
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Hi Rayc,
From the intro to the end, the beautiful guitar playing commands attention. The voice singing the lyrics has an intonation that blends in perfectly with the musical arrangement. The bass playing is also interesting. On the other hand, well-written lyrics require proofreading to fully understand the theme and meaning of the words that we wanted to breathe into them. It's a excellent team effort. Well done.
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Hi SL!
Congrats on fantastic collaboration! A bit on the dark side, but I believe that was the message intended. Surreal and unexpected music. Cool Ray & Robert vocal play. I liked wah opening and solo. Arrangement is complex, but listens well with help of up & up progression. Excellent teamwork! Thank you for sharing.
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Spirit Level
Really enjoyed the interplay between band members.
Everyone played their part and the song was complex but engaging.
I liked it.
Peter
Niveau à bulle
Vraiment apprécié l'interaction entre les membres du groupe.
Tout le monde a joué son rôle et la chanson était complexe mais engageante.
Je l'ai aimé.
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Connected epic poems on an heroic theme - well stanzas describing a modern malaise and how it is being dealt with perhaps.
Yes, Scott had ample opportunity to stretch his wings and he did so wonderfully. The lead links sections and provides fabulous melodic phrases.
I dropped in a little of the Dutch translation for you. [/quote]
Hi Ray, where is that translation? I searched in every post. I need it!!
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Hi Ray, where is that translation? I searched in every post. I need it!!
Hans
It's geographically flipped...under the French... though not a new Rampjaar.
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Are you sure? Not a new Rampjaar? What about corona and Delta?
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