PG Music Home Forums General Discussion Woodshedding - Learning to Play! Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes.

Index

Print Thread

Go To

Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. #677269 10/10/21 01:05 PM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio edshaw OP Expert
OP edshaw Expert Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio	So you have the concept understood as a whole & you know what you gotta do. Let's use a simple arpeggiated chord for an example. You make a C-F-G backing track, simple folk or blues. Rather than trying to eat the apple in one bite, strum aling with C and F. When you get to the G part, arpeggiate it -- four, eight, or whatever beats. The next time around, shift position. Instead of rooting the G chord on the e string, root it on the fifth fret d string. So it goes. See what I am doing? Once the G chord, really a three note scale, has been mastered, same thing with the C or F. Capischi? Link: www.soundcloud.com/ed_shaw (Feel Free to Use) Biab for WIN 2020 -- Win 10 64bit -- Reaper/Audacity Zoom R-16 -- Tascam DP-03-SD -- SoundTap -- Crescendo --

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677336 10/11/21 04:30 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	Not really man. What are you sayin'??? How is this related to pentatonic? Are you saying pick a chord? And then pick it?? Sorry! David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677499 10/12/21 09:16 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio edshaw OP Expert
OP edshaw Expert Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio	A 1-3-5 could be considered a simple scale. It has an interval pattern. Agreeing on that, we could make a simple backing track, strum two chords and pick the third, changing different neck positions with the rounds. That way, we learn speed and accuracy one arpeggiated chord at a time. Once a chord (mini scale) has been mastered, repeat the process with another one. Wish I was better at explaining. Last edited by edshaw; 10/12/21 09:17 AM. Link: www.soundcloud.com/ed_shaw (Feel Free to Use) Biab for WIN 2020 -- Win 10 64bit -- Reaper/Audacity Zoom R-16 -- Tascam DP-03-SD -- SoundTap -- Crescendo --

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677500 10/12/21 09:25 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	I see. But Ed, make sure you pick the 4th chord too so you can do your Pre Chorus man. You promised me you were going in. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677510 10/12/21 10:06 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	I read somewhere that John McLaughlin used a combination of 3 pentatonic scales rooted on 1, 4, and 5 to play guitar in a given key. So if the key was E minor (E F# G A B C D) he'd noodle around in a mixture of the following: E pentatonic minor – E G A B D A pentatonic minor – A C D E G B pentatonic minor – B D E F# A

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. Mark Hayes #677517 10/12/21 10:34 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	After a certain point, at which I had memorized the fretboard, I only asked myself one question: Ok, so exactly what can I get away with here and not get arrested by the music police?? When Jazz guys start talking theory it often makes me laugh. I always thought you were just supposed to find cool notes and play them over top of cool chords. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. Mark Hayes #677580 10/12/21 08:29 PM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio edshaw OP Expert
OP edshaw Expert Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio	EAD are the relative minors of G-C-F, the C Maj 1-4-5's, VI's of C, F, and G. Last edited by edshaw; 10/13/21 03:31 PM. Link: www.soundcloud.com/ed_shaw (Feel Free to Use) Biab for WIN 2020 -- Win 10 64bit -- Reaper/Audacity Zoom R-16 -- Tascam DP-03-SD -- SoundTap -- Crescendo --

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677604 10/13/21 01:10 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	Let me see if I get this straight: If I hear an E minor jam going down at Tubby's Bar and Grill and I want to noodle, I get to pick from E F# G A B C and D. But only if the local noodling mandate has allowed an FDA-approved version of the Major Minor Sharp Everything Flat Everything Pentatonic Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Faucian and Locrian relative minor enharmonic scales???? Why can't I just play a single G note the entire time??? David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677619 10/13/21 03:00 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	OK, now, can BIAB do this? Can I put a soloing guitar into Mahavishnu Mode so that it rapidly cycles through these modes – * E pentatonic minor – E G A B D * A pentatonic minor – A C D E G * B pentatonic minor – B D E F# A – against the master key of E natural minor?

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. Mark Hayes #677628 10/13/21 03:40 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	NO! But Mark, you MUST do this if you are going to register with ASCAP. First, type in all those letters as chords. Generate in Melody Maker. Then go into notation editor and remove all of the notes that do not fit into the E major minor Sharp 5 pentatonic. Then open a Utility track and paste in a random track from your least favorite song. Regenerate and take the new midi from that and open it in a chord progression in another key. Use key switches to set the pitch 2 cents higher. Manually adjust the first notes of every phrase to be the last note of the third phrase second above the last phrase. That's it. Please let me know if you have questions. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677629 10/13/21 03:46 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	SSSSSH!! I'm HUNTING WABBITS!! "Faucian Mode", snort. That was pretty good, I admit. I'm coming up with a demo of sorts, with this done manually in Logic.

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. David Snyder #677633 10/13/21 03:53 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio edshaw OP Expert
OP edshaw Expert Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,580 Central Ohio	Originally Posted By: David Snyder I see. But Ed, make sure you pick the 4th chord too so you can do your Pre Chorus man. You promised me you were going in. At the time, I knew I should have kept quiet. David, if the progression is G-C-D, what is that 4th chord I am finding so elusive? Is it the relative minor Emin ? I do want to know before the launch. Link: www.soundcloud.com/ed_shaw (Feel Free to Use) Biab for WIN 2020 -- Win 10 64bit -- Reaper/Audacity Zoom R-16 -- Tascam DP-03-SD -- SoundTap -- Crescendo --

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. edshaw #677648 10/13/21 05:01 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	Ed, I opened up chord builder and I am going to go with Bm, man. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) please help Ed1.jpg (111.05 KB, 66 downloads) please help Ed2.jpg (130.51 KB, 66 downloads) David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. Mark Hayes #677650 10/13/21 05:09 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes ... put a soloing guitar into Mahavishnu Mode so that it rapidly cycles through these modes – * E pentatonic minor – E G A B D * A pentatonic minor – A C D E G * B pentatonic minor – B D E F# A – against the master key of E natural minor? OK, I think this does that. Couldn't swear to it. Johnny did it better. https://soundcloud.com/mark_hayes/mahavishnu-mode

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. Mark Hayes #677672 10/13/21 07:06 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	Ok. I just remembered why I never listened to Mahavishnu. David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. David Snyder #677702 10/13/21 11:03 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689 Mark Hayes Expert
Mark Hayes Expert Joined: Jun 2021 Posts: 1,689	Originally Posted By: David Snyder Ok. I just remembered why I never listened to Mahavishnu. It's better with the big gong at the beginning. You have to be in a very spiritual mood for this stuff.

Re: Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes. Mark Hayes #677711 10/13/21 11:59 AM Woodshedding - Learning to Play!
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,165 North Carolina	Ha ha ha!! True that!! David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Go To

Moderated by Andrew - PG Music, Callie - PG Music, Catherine, PeterGannon, pgmoderation

Link Copied to Clipboard

ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News

December 20, 2024

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows® Today!

If you’ve already purchased Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®, great news—a new update is now available! This update introduces a handy new feature: a vertical cursor in the Tracks window that shows the current location across all tracks, and more.

Discover everything included in this free update and download it now at https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1124

December 18, 2024

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Boot Camp: The AI Lyrics Generator

With Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows®, we've introduced an exciting new feature: the AI Lyrics Generator! In this video, Tobin guides you step-by-step on how to make the most of this new tool.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Boot Camp: The AI Lyrics Generator video.

Check out the forum post for more information.

December 18, 2024

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using VST3 Plugins

Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows® now includes support for VST3 plugins, bringing even more creative possibilities to your music production. Join Simon as he guides you through the process in this easy-to-follow demonstration!

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using VST3 Plugins

Join the conversation on our forum.

December 17, 2024

Video: Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows: Using The BB Stem Splitter!

In this video, Tobin provides a crash course on using the new BB Stem Splitter feature included in Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows®. During this process he also uses the Audio Chord Wizard (ACW) and the new Equalize Tempo feature.

Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using the BB Stem Splitter

Check out the forum post for some optional Tips & Tricks!

December 16, 2024

Congrats to Misha (Rustyspoon)…downloaded/installed a full Audiophile 2025!

Breaking News!

We’re thrilled to announce that Rustyspoon has made PG history as the very first person to successfully complete the download and install of the full Band-in-a-Box 2025 Windows Audiophile Edition (with FLAC files)—a whopping 610GB of data!

A big shoutout to Rustyspoon for stepping up to be our test "elf!"

Thank you for your support, Rustyspoon!

December 10, 2024

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows Videos

With the launch of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows, we're adding new videos to our YouTube channel. We'll also share them here once they are published so you can easily find all the Band-in-a-Box® 2025 and new Add-on videos in one place!

Whether it's a summary of the new features, demonstrations of the 202 new RealTracks, new XPro Styles PAK 8, or Xtra Styles PAKs 18, information on the 2025 49-PAK, or detailed tutorials for other Band-in-a-Box® 2025 features, we have you covered!

Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Videos - we will be updating this post as more videos are added!

December 04, 2024

Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box^® 2025 for Windows is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until December 31, 2024! Visit our Band-in-a-Box^® packages page for all the purchase options available.

2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box^® for Windows 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!

Read more...

More News

Forum Statistics

Forums65

Topics83,517

Posts758,777

Members39,140

Most Online3,932
Nov 19th, 2024

Newest Members

easonlee, Guutaa, sadsad12, JulioSax, mmoalem
39,140 Registered Users

PG Music Home Forums General Discussion Woodshedding - Learning to Play! Here's a thought that came from my recent study of the pentatonic modes.

What are you looking for?

Search Site

International Band-in-a-Box versions - Band-in-a-Box.com

Other ways to find help.

Toll Free Lines

Online Tech Support