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and as for tongue in cheek posts, my quote from Woody Guthrie - 'anything more than three chords is showing off' - seems to have forever branded me as a musical illiterate. but the point was serious in the light of some of the chord queries SBM has posted - particularly the chord substitution debate. I found THIS today, from which I learned that - minor 11ths are "moody" and "intellectual" while - minor 13ths are "sophisticated" and "hip" By the way, after all this, I finally went and bought Scaler! Been curious for a while but now I had to if for no other reason than to know what I'm talking about. I'm reading their forums now. I feel like a spy! Without getting too deep into those woods, I would like to just mention that those software users seem to have very similar concerns to these software users, with regard to tools vs. crutches, enhancements vs. substitutes for creativity, etc.
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i think there is a slight problem with the lack of feedback. several posts suggest how he could learn more about music. no real reply, just more questions. its as if he's exploring the features of the software not how to create music with it.
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Suddenly I tell myself that this way of dissecting the software may be used by a Chinese start-up who would kindly like to copy our Band hahaha. Good luck guys! Just kidding ;-)
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I am just in love with music.
But I don’t have much time to study music in depth.
Therefore, I found that BIAB is suitable for me because BIAB can make music easily and quickly.
At first, I just wanted to use BB VST to generate some tracks, but I found that BB VST had some problems. You can go to see my message that was originally about BB VST. Then, at your prompt, I started to use the BIAB main program, so this was another process of relearning. With your help, I now have a comprehensive understanding of the logic of BIAB. I post a lot because I not only ask questions, but also give some suggestions.
Finally, thank you all for your help. If there are any questions or ideas in the process of using BIAB, I will still leave a message. It has become my habit to turn on the computer every day to log in to the BIAB forum. At present, the biggest function application still hopes that CHORD BUILDER will add a keyboard.
Regarding replacing chords, I have recently mastered some techniques.
for example
1. You can modify the upper chord to 251 according to the next paragraph
2. In the next chord, you can insert the fifth dominant seventh chord above, C-Em becomes E-B7-Em
3. No matter which chord you want to connect to, you can insert a dominant seventh chord that is a semitone higher than that chord in front of it, C-Fmaj7 can become C-F#7-Fmaj7
Of course, these are just tricks, I can only remember now, but I don’t know why, and I don’t want to know why, because music still needs to be tried more. It is the most convenient thing to try more in BIAB. In the process of using BIAB, I think anyone who makes music should have a set of BIAB, which is really great. This is my biggest feeling.
The thing I regret most now is that I didn’t use BIAB earlier.
Fortunately, it's not too late! ^_^
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... I found THIS today, ... The gentleman, Ethan Hein, that created the online dictionary and YouTube explainer video created the majority of the videos used in the Play With Your Music series. He really has a way of explaining concepts that I can understand.
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... I found THIS today, ... The gentleman, Ethan Hein, that created the online dictionary and YouTube explainer video created the majority of the videos used in the Play With Your Music series. He really has a way of explaining concepts that I can understand. Indeed, that's how I found this. Good stuff, thanks. Man, 5 years ago that project had licensed access to stems of a couple of Peter Gabriel songs that their cohorts were happily remixing! Unfortunately, that license is expired, and downloadable stems are now nowhere to be found.
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and as for tongue in cheek posts, my quote from Woody Guthrie - 'anything more than three chords is showing off' - seems to have forever branded me as a musical illiterate.
I'm sure nobody wanted to imply anything like that (sorry if any comment sounded that way), I think it has simply been pointed out that in some situations and musical styles that rule doesn't apply. 
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and as for tongue in cheek posts, my quote from Woody Guthrie - 'anything more than three chords is showing off' - seems to have forever branded me as a musical illiterate.
I only interpreted the comment as a cheeky statement by Woodie, who clearly actually knew all along the 3 chords was only a starting point 
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12-bar blues is only three chords and is a great place from which to start. Blues scale or mixo-blues scale over the top makes a great foundation and leads a long way. The fact that it has only three chords both reinforces Woodie's and Bob's statement, but the use of those scales over the chords also builds lots of other chords on the way, which we don't necessarily thinkof as chords, but they certainly are!
I'm mostly jazz-oriented, but I still enjoy improvising over simple blues progressions. A good way to switch the mind off and just let the music guide the subconcious.
I seem to remember Mark Knopfler saying that he was at his happiest just playing chords and singing along.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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