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#699995 01/21/22 06:03 PM
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Flipper

This song bears a strict ontogenetic connection to Arnold Schoenberg's "Three Piano Pieces", but it is a long and winding road from there to here and that is not this.

You can find a recording of the original music HERE.

What this is, is a set of BIAB RealTracks driven by chords extracted from an unheard MIDI transcription of the Schoenberg, forcing a showdown between tonality and atonality as BIAB tries its best to hold its ground in an untenable situation. The sung melody was derived from the chords called out by BIAB and is not present in the Schoenberg.

Thanks to RayC for lyrics:

The Reich that one lives with one's tears
Is crumbling in waves in the morning light
An autumn tide overflows
The levelled horizon

Blood lines pure and sweet
Flow numb into the waters!
The Reich that one lives with one's tears
Is crumbling in waves in the morning light

The leader, urged on by their devotions
Intoxicated and more by his daily injections
Blood lines pure and sweet
Flow numb into the waters!
The Reich that one lives with one's tears


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Click to reveal..
There are horns if you wait long enough! But it all gets rather out of hand by the end.

RealTracks:
995:Bass, Electric, HardRockLA Ev 120
997:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm HardRockLACrispArp Ev 120
~522:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 120
2585:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PunkHeldPlus Ev 165
~686:Organ, B3, Background Pop Ev 120
RockHardLA^5-a:Snare, Loose HiHat , b:Snare, Open HiHat

Emvoice synthetic singers employed.
Spoken words by Siri.
Logic Pro says, "And we helped!"

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EXCELLENT...The photographed Flipper is being flippant as usual.


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Originally Posted By: rayc
EXCELLENT...The photographed Flipper is being flippant as usual.

Yes, he was “the people’s king of the sea“ at first, doing tricks to delight young people and bringing laughter wherever he went, but then he declared himself Ubergruppenflipper and it was all “I’m faster than lightning!” and the sound of his squeak would make the children cry. This composition depicts the slide into tyranny.

It really is way too long but I wanted to use the entire piece Schoenberg piece.

I tried to fit lyrics into Jay’s part (they may even still be in there) but the jumpy melody made them completely unintelligible. I will try again when I think I can get away with it.

Thanks again!

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      La la la la la la la la

That's exactly the same sad state as the lyrics of the current song I'm working on. cry

Came for the Schönberg, stayed for the horns.

Disappointingly less cacophonous at the end than advertised. wink

More musical than the description led me to believe! laugh


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Originally Posted By: dcuny
      La la la la la la la la

That's exactly the same sad state as the lyrics of the current song I'm working on. cry

I wish Emvoice gave you a choice of default syllables, or let you set one yourself. It would be fun to have a piece that went "bork, bork, bork!"

Originally Posted By: dcuny
Came for the Schönberg, stayed for the horns.

Yay, it worked! Psychologically, at least.

Originally Posted By: dcuny
Disappointingly less cacophonous at the end than advertised. wink

Not to worry, I can fix that. =8^)

Originally Posted By: dcuny
More musical than the description led me to believe! laugh

I am finding, more and more, that intellectually interesting, abstract musical ideas can yield dandy, listenable music if you anchor them to emotionally accessible existing material. In this case, I'm anchoring 100-year-old atonal piano music to a collection of hopelessly tonal recordings and forcing them to work out a compromise. It's very dialectical! And I kid but I be serious.

Thanks for listening, and best of luck with the lalas.

Mark

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Essential update: I have included RayC's lyrics as a guest vocal by Siri. They begin at 2:05. Please see original description for lyrics.

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Mark,
fun and unusual experiment and col-la-la-la-boration. Thank you for sharing.

Misha.

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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
fun and unusual experiment and col-la-la-la-boration. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you for putting up with all the experimentation! Hopefully the "Si-Ray" interlude helped break up the la-la-la, which I kind of do la-la-lather on.

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What was the point of this song?

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Originally Posted By: Keith44
What was the point of this song?

Can you phrase that as a question?

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Originally Posted By: Keith44
What was the point of this song?

It'd be pointless pointing out the point if you don't already see it, if you get my point.
I refer you, instead, to the animated film based on the album by Harry Nilsson...
This part may assuage your pain...

The POINT is made at 2.17.

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That's cool. I want to quote all of the funny comments above but there are too many. You folks are all so entertaining in many ways. Really cool how you created this, Mark, and a great idea to add Ray's lyrics, which seem the highlight of the song, an oasis of understanding among the la-la-las, which are also very cool. What a wonderful musical mind you have, Mark.


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Listened to the original first.
Seems he wrote it to express his feelings after his wife had left him.
Then you understand a bit of what you hear.

We recognise what you did with his music, same atmosphere.
And of course you can hear Flipper too.
Could be good music for a movie!

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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
That's cool. I want to quote all of the funny comments above but there are too many. You folks are all so entertaining in many ways. Really cool how you created this, Mark, and a great idea to add Ray's lyrics, which seem the highlight of the song, an oasis of understanding among the la-la-las, which are also very cool. What a wonderful musical mind you have, Mark.

Thanks, Marty! THAT is the point, to invite people to listen and laugh and think and react with whatever they keep under their hats.

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Originally Posted By: RnAM
Listened to the original first.
Seems he wrote it to express his feelings after his wife had left him.
Then you understand a bit of what you hear.
We recognise what you did with his music, same atmosphere.
And of course you can hear Flipper too.
Could be good music for a movie!

Thanks, Rob and Anne-Marie! I appreciate the comment, and I’m really glad you were interested enough to listen to the original.

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Hello Mark
You have to come up with such an idea first
really cool
And that you used a Hard Rock Bass RT gives you a second thumbs up as well ;-)
Many greetings
Andi ;-)

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Originally Posted By: PROJECT M
You have to come up with such an idea first
really cool
And that you used a Hard Rock Bass RT gives you a second thumbs up as well ;-)

I do like that bass, I toned it down at first then thought no no no turn it back up! Thanks for the thumbs, that's good to know.

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THAT is the point, to invite people to listen and laugh and think and react with whatever they keep under their hats.


Well, I checked under my hat (after retrieving it from the hat-check girl) but what was there hardly mattered (being grey and all). I will say 'great job all the way around' and 'good use of BIAB' and whatever other forum review platitudes exist besides those two. Here's another: 'always enjoy what you post.' But actually, I quite do. Got my grey matter percolating, and that's a good thing. Thanks for the creativity.


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Mark... just wanted to let you know, I listened as long as I could.

I do appreciate the effort...


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Originally Posted By: bloc-head
Mark... just wanted to let you know, I listened as long as I could. I do appreciate the effort...

Thanks for your honesty. I can certainly understand. Anything in particular that bothered you?

Anyway, maybe somebody else will see your comment and listen because they want to hear what was so bad, and that will be good! =8^)

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