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Here is my 1st attempt at two new things for me in BiaB arrangements; a tempo change (90 to 120BPM) and a call-and-answer (guitar & organ).

Comments welcome.

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The music is very nice.
The tempo change comes rather unexpected. Maybe it's an idea to use a full stop on the last chord before the tempo changes.
The call and answer is a good idea. We hear the organ on the left (earbuds) and the guitar in the middle.
Why not let the guitar come from the right?
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Thanks for listening and the useful comments.
It never occurred to me to do a full stop, wouldn't that be more unexpected? Maybe unexpected is more pleasing? I actually increased from 90 to 110 to 120 over 3 bars thinking it would be gradual.

As for the left-right balance on the guitar and organ, that is a great idea! Panning one left and the other right would make the call-answer more dramatic.


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I gave this a listen because I'm interested in the underused ability to change tempo. But I have to say, in this case, it doesn't sound very musical, it sounds like a turntable speeding up uncontrollably. Going from 90 to 120 over 3 bars is NOT gradual! =8^)

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Mark, this is the kind of feedback I seek as I'm still experimenting with this tool.
Got any tips on tempo changes? Gradual vs sudden? If gradual, over how many bars?


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Originally Posted By: Bass Thumper
Mark, this is the kind of feedback I seek as I'm still experimenting with this tool.
Got any tips on tempo changes? Gradual vs sudden? If gradual, over how many bars?

Jeez, I don't know, I'm tempted to Google up some recommendations then pass them off as my own, but let me not. =8^)

To be clear, it wasn't so much a musical judgment I was making, as in "too much accelerandissimo!", it was more like: "What I just heard sounded like somebody turned a knob, and now a machine is going much faster." I didn't especially care for the effect, but it may have been exactly what you wanted. It would certainly work for a DJ!

Personally, I think I would go for a full stop followed by an unexpected temp change, which isn't liable to sounding artificially smooth in transition.

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Much appreciated. Not sure if my bass playing is up to a step-change in tempo after a full stop but I'll give it a try.
My other option is to just keep the tempo constant.


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Things are starting to gel for you.

I'm an not a fan of that abrupt tempo change. I would have liked to hear a subtle tempo change, say 90 to 95, then back down to 90. I have slightly increased my tempo during a chorus then back down during the following verse. YMMV

Sounding better with each post.


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Thanks to all that commented.
I chopped the tempo change (seemed like a good idea at the time). crazy
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677/latin-liftoff

I also improved the left-right pan.


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