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I can't get my USB controller keyboard to work to play along with BIAB. advice anyone?

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Registered today and the first post is a very vague question. But I will assume this is a real request and not another prank.

We will need a lot more information in order to help. Things like computer CPU (Mac or PC), USB port info, keyboard controller name, audio interface name, etc. When we get this information we will be able to better help you solve this problem.


Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?

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Also please tell us what it says in the BIAB menu Options, Preferences, MIDI Driver, MIDI Input Driver. Does your keyboard appear and can you select it?


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Thank you.
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All keyboards and interface are recognised under midi input and audio menus
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Originally Posted By: Grahammk1
Thank you.
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M-audio keystation Pro 88
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All keyboards and interface are recognised under midi input and audio menus
I most certainly do not prank at my advanced years!


Works here. Does this help?

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Thank you so much.
I do not have a thru track showing in the mixer and I don't know how to add it?

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Don't think you'd need it in this case.
It can make things more complex than necessary. I don't think your keyboard makes 'sound', just sends/receives MIDI, but receiving it wouldn't mean much if it doesn't have sound.

What happens if you try the settings MusicStudent gave?
If that works,
Then maybe after that you can start tinkering with other routing options, but start at a baseline first and let us know.
A picture of your setup (like MusicStudent showed) would go a long way to help.

Wait, which MIDI Thru doesn't show?
The one at top or inside the dialogue box?


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Sorry, haven't worked out how to get a pic on here yet

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The midi keyboard will only play on the "Thru Channel" in BIAB and only if you have the routing I show in the pic above. The thru channel is always present you don't "add it". My midi keyboard is sending on Channel 1. I am using MME so there is a bit of latency, but other input drivers (ASIO) may work. There is some short of trick to boost the vol to a suitable level. I forget it right now.


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To get a pic to show in your post, don't use the Quick Reply option, but rather click the Reply button on a post.
Then below the section where you add your reply, you'll see a File Manger section that allows sharing a screen shot (as long as it is not too large of a file size).


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As a newbee to the forum, you need to have a few more "posts" before the picute upload option is available. You never told us what version of BIAB you are using? You could post that or tell us how the weather is where you are to run up your post number?? grin


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I am using the latest version of biab

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I downloaded it online a couple of days ago

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I live in Scotland and the weather is sunny and warm

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Originally Posted By: Grahammk1
Thank you so much.
I do not have a thru track showing in the mixer and I don't know how to add it?

To get tracks to show up in the mixer, click on the little 'eye' symbol in the bottom right corner of the mixer and select the tracks from the list.

The dialog that shows on MusicStudent's post is opened from:
Options->Preferences->MIDI Driver
or
From the Misc tab MIDI->MIDI/Audio Driver Setup


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Progress, thank you.
I now have a live feed from my keyboard into a thru track on the mixer.
But I can't hear it.

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Originally Posted By: Grahammk1
I live in Scotland and the weather is sunny and warm

Yep, but just giving you a chance to respond and get a few more posts in your count.

Scotland - Absolutely beautiful country. But warm at the moment? Not sure, but soon will be though wink
Have a fantastic Spring and Summer ! grin

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I have some progress.
I have visual input into the mixer, but no audio output.
The style playback audio is fine.
I'm beginning to think this is an audio sharing issue.

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Originally Posted By: Grahammk1
I have some progress.
I have visual input into the mixer, but no audio output.
The style playback audio is fine.
I'm beginning to think this is an audio sharing issue.


Still a bit in the dark until you can show us picutures of you BIAB Configurations. Can you hear midi output from BIAB?? I am guessing your answer will be - No, and you only are using RTs and hearing audio output...??


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Originally Posted By: Grahammk1
I'm beginning to think this is an audio sharing issue.

... or MIDI->Audio Generation?

On that MIDI/Audio Setup dialog, what do you have on the button mid-right where it says "VSTi/DXi Synth"?

And when you press that button, does it come up with a dialog offering a tab "sound source files"?

The defaults for these are CoyoteWT and GM.DLS and should work OK, but if you have a different synth and/or different or missing sound source file, it may not work. The Options button shows the path to the sound source file.

FWIW, I now usually have VSTSynthFont64 as the synth and a better soundfont (GM.DLS is pretty basic), usually +++ Compifont +++ or +++ Timbres of Heaven +++

Edit: Addendum ... I'm running this on Linux and I sometimes get warning boxes behind dialog boxes, which may be peculiar to Linux. But ... if things don't respond, try moving dialogs aside to see if there's a pop-up behind them.

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Edit: Addendum ... I'm running this on Linux and I sometimes get warning boxes behind dialog boxes, which may be peculiar to Linux. But ... if things don't respond, try moving dialogs aside to see if there's a pop-up behind them.

Apparently this behind-the-dialog pop-up happens on BiaB build 908 & 920 on Windows as well, but on Windows I can't move the dialog out of the way, it's locked, so BiaB is hung and needs killing with Task Manager. This is clearly a bug.

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I have pressed a squillion buttons and it now works. Kind of.
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Originally Posted By: Grahammk1
I have pressed a squillion buttons and it now works. Kind of.
Thanks

Let's hope whatever you did still works when you restart BiaB. Some of these things are a bit temperamental and a bit arcane.

BTW, I've just remembered that I recently found this (in "Tutorials" for some reason), which may well help if the trouble returns: Band-in-a-Box® for Windows - No Sound / MIDI Driver Setup

Is that "Kind of" an issue that still wants addressing?

If so, can you expand a bit?

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