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Here is a recent arrangement called Safe In The Storm


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Yesterday I was noodling around on the keyboard exploring and I played a C major cord and wondered what would happen if I flattened the E; it sounded pretty good. I searched it and found it was a C minor (C-Eb-G). Then it was natural to wonder what if I sharpened the E; that also sounded good and I learned that was a C sus4 (C-F-G). So as a progression I played C major, C minor, C sus4 and C major . . . a song was born after I confirmed this worked with other root notes.

For you music experts, I know this is childs play but for me it was an eye opener and first departure from hunting and pecking for chords in BiaB that work. For you novices like me, if you don’t have a physical keyboard, consider buying one. Even a $25 model at Walmart will allow you to see and hear chords.

The funny thing is that I’ve used minor and suspended chords before in BiaB but never understood how they are made. The Korg keyboard allowed that understanding.

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5. 906 Electric Piano

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6. Fender Bass (took about 5 takes)
7. Korg: Big Band Brass (took about 10 takes to get the chords, individual notes and timing down)
8. Korg: DW8000 Lead
9. Korg: Noisy Riser & Drop

Mixed and rendered in Studio One. Also, this is my first attempt at panning. Comments welcome.


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Ain't music theory cool stuff? The more you mess around and experiment, the more you can learn. Take the time as you did to figure out what you did.

Cool jam.


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Very nice progression...makes a great jam...throw in a 7th on your Cm and you'll get some butter with that jam smile


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Hello BT ...

I like it a lot. I'm pretty good with chords but short on musical theory. I just eventually figured out what to do and then what to do with it. It
took a while. I made my first dollar (actually $8.00) in August of 1963. Been doing it ever since. Made real good living doing something I truly loved.

I enjoyed this listen a lot. Cool song and easy to listen to. Nicely done! Keep experimenting and learning!

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Nothing quite as good as discovery learning.
I'm impressed by the bass tone.


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Nice progression and a really cool song.

Another fun progression you may want to experiment with - c, cmaj7, fmaj7
it works well with keys.


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Bass Thumper - I liked it! It was a fun, jam-a-long song. I really liked the bass playing throughout the song, though at times I thought it may have been a little loud in the mix (but that's just me.) It really did give the song a solid platform though. I also liked your panning. I understand the difficulty in this stuff, I'm just learning it all too - good job and nice listen.

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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Ain't music theory cool stuff? The more you mess around and experiment, the more you can learn. Take the time as you did to figure out what you did.
Cool jam.


Hey Hacker, you bet. This theory stuff is cool indeed.

I still will be hunting and pecking for the next chord for some time to come, but my toolbox is slowly accumulating useful tools.


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Originally Posted By: firesong
Very nice progression...makes a great jam...throw in a 7th on your Cm and you'll get some butter with that jam smile

Thanks for the listen Firesong.

My keyboard skills are very basic, and my bass skills not much better. If throwing in a 7th means adding an additional note, that could be challenging. Moving from one 3-note cord to another for the brass section took several attempts to get right; not sure if a 4th finger would decide to cooperate laugh

Although, I always wanted to play piano as a kid; but we never had the money.


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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hello BT ...
I like it a lot. I'm pretty good with chords but short on musical theory. I just eventually figured out what to do and then what to do with it. It
took a while. I made my first dollar (actually $8.00) in August of 1963. Been doing it ever since. Made real good living doing something I truly loved.

I enjoyed this listen a lot. Cool song and easy to listen to. Nicely done! Keep experimenting and learning!

Alan

1963? Yikes that's almost 60 years, my music "career" is coming up on 7 years old and I'm looking forward to being a teenager someday . . . wooo hooo smile

Thanks for the uplift, coming from a seasoned pro like you means a lot.


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Originally Posted By: Bass Thumper
If throwing in a 7th means adding an additional note, that could be challenging. Moving from one 3-note cord to another for the brass section took several attempts to get right; not sure if a 4th finger would decide to cooperate


With midi there are various ways of adding note upon note to create interesting chords. Sometimes I use programs such as Musescore or Guitar Pro to write the notation. Then I save them as midi files before assigning various instruments to play and record them. That way you can be confident of perfect timing (and you never run out of fingers).

Nice track, by the way.


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Originally Posted By: rayc
Nothing quite as good as discovery learning.
I'm impressed by the bass tone.


I agree. At some level we are all explorers.
Glad you like the tone. My signal chain from the flatwound strings to Studio One and everything in between is serving me well.


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Bass Thumper,
Neat progression and bass playing. Good musical exercise.
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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
Nice progression and a really cool song.

Another fun progression you may want to experiment with - c, cmaj7, fmaj7
it works well with keys.
Charlie

Appreciate your sentiments Charlie.

I checked out your progression and it is smoother than smooth smile


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Originally Posted By: Brad Williams
Bass Thumper - I liked it! It was a fun, jam-a-long song. I really liked the bass playing throughout the song, though at times I thought it may have been a little loud in the mix (but that's just me.) It really did give the song a solid platform though. I also liked your panning. I understand the difficulty in this stuff, I'm just learning it all too - good job and nice listen.

Thanks Brad. Yeah, my bass is a bit hot in this mix. So many details to consider when putting a song together.

Thanks for the feedback.


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love your bass playing and the progression.


nice sound picture changes.lots of subtleties.

if you dont me saying i hear this as a tv show backing.
maybe a cop show.

best

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Originally Posted By: Ghostgum

With midi there are various ways of adding note upon note to create interesting chords. Sometimes I use programs such as Musescore or Guitar Pro to write the notation. Then I save them as midi files before assigning various instruments to play and record them. That way you can be confident of perfect timing (and you never run out of fingers).

Nice track, by the way.

Ghostgum, I have this self-conflicting view regarding MIDI. On the one hand if I were to become proficient with it my songs would be much cleaner and on the money. But on the other hand I'm just having too much fun and satisfaction not dealing with MIDI.

Even though my creations are bit rough around the edges I really enjoy my fingers on a real physical keyboard and pressing down a real physical bass guitar string. I'm probably in a minority in this regard but whenever I can, I try to use a physical instrument.

Glad you liked the track, thanks.


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Originally Posted By: justanoldmuso

love your bass playing and the progression.

nice sound picture changes.lots of subtleties.

if you dont me saying i hear this as a tv show backing.
maybe a cop show.

best
om

Thanks om.

Hmmmm a cop show? That would be my only musical claim to fame. Sign me up !!! smile


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Wow, the coolest thing you said was that it was an eye-opener for you, Steve. Man, I remember that feeling so many times. It's one of those magnificent hurdles that, once cleared, opens up a whole new field to explore. Excellent chops and a good feel. The Mathematics Of Music --write it, man.


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Very nice instrumental!

This would have fitted right in with TV shows like Starsky and Hutch, Baretta or M*A*S*H.

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