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Hello folks,
I was unable to edit the original post so had to drop in a new one.
THANK YOU to those who lent ears & expertise to the mix's development.
The end result, though pleasing none of you completely, incorporates much of what was offered.
The ME opted to "roll off the edges" to give it a "vibe".
I like his decision & the result:
All Night Tears by Alan, Alison & ray
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Quite an improvement I think, Ray.

Overall just an excellent slow blues, and man, I really love her voice!

I think your mix is spot on, vocal sitting right where it should. And the bass sounds much better too.

There is a bit of noise right at the beginning of the song just before the guitar intro that you might want to get rid of.

Other than that, yeah, sounds great!

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Excellent, the vocals are much better and you put the guitar licks in the right places between the vocals.
The strings at the end sound a bit artificial (I'd drop them), but that won't bother anyone (except me grin ) who has listened this far.
2 thumbs up, Al will love it!


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Ray,
What Dave said about the noise. +1
I like how strings mixed in from 4:09 to 4:49 but right at the end, as B.D. mentioned they sound a bit strange. Otherwise excellent!
Definitely one of best tunes in your library.


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Cool song. Excellent vocalist. Song has a really neat feel to it. Well done..


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This sounds great, Ray.

The guitar fills are just right and Janice said they’re like “cries for help” too.

We liked the tag of the last line repeated and we also liked the strings following it.
They added to the poignancy for us.

Excellent!

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Excellent production really tight guitar licks and tones
And really good vocals
Good job!!


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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Quite an improvement I think, Ray.
Overall just an excellent slow blues, and man, I really love her voice!
I think your mix is spot on, vocal sitting right where it should. And the bass sounds much better too.
There is a bit of noise right at the beginning of the song just before the guitar intro that you might want to get rid of.
Other than that, yeah, sounds great!

I haven't topped n tailed any stuff for yonks. When I finally get around to putting together an "album" I shall do. I did ask the ME to leave that stuff in as sometimes it can get a bit of a vibe.
Thanks Dave.


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Originally Posted By: B.D.Thomas
Excellent, the vocals are much better and you put the guitar licks in the right places between the vocals.
The strings at the end sound a bit artificial (I'd drop them), but that won't bother anyone (except me grin ) who has listened this far.
2 thumbs up, Al will love it!

Thanks B.D.T,
The "strings" are via Mellotron and are as a 'Tron sounds: grainy, a bit of wow, flutter and tape noise. it's me trying to place the song into a time & place, (late 60s tape nest).
I'd agree & drop them if they were not Tron. Peopel "of a certain age" will recognize them I suspect. Here's a classic use...


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Hi Ray
Sounds great
Top vocals and guitar work
The mix is really very well done
Great work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)

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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
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What Dave said about the noise. +1
I like how strings mixed in from 4:09 to 4:49 but right at the end, as B.D. mentioned they sound a bit strange. Otherwise excellent!
Definitely one of best tunes in your library.
Misha.

Thanks Misha,
yes, the graininess of the Tron strings, (well Tron string quartet + orchestra + cello - some from tape -> wav conversion and some via the Mel9), is very clear when they are naked at the end.


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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Cool song. Excellent vocalist. Song has a really neat feel to it. Well done..

Thanks Scott,
I hoped tying things together with a bow would tidy it.

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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
This sounds great, Ray.
The guitar fills are just right and Janice said they’re like “cries for help” too.
We liked the tag of the last line repeated and we also liked the strings following it.
They added to the poignancy for us.
Excellent!
J&B

Thank you J & B,
It's cool when any instrument comes close to the human voice.
The end vocal tag was a really good idea from someone with excellent ears & taste.


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Originally Posted By: Elliott Kayne
Excellent production really tight guitar licks and tones
And really good vocals
Good job!!

Thank you Elliott,
I'll pass on your comment to Alison.

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Originally Posted By: PROJECT M
Hi Ray
Sounds great
Top vocals and guitar work
The mix is really very well done
Great work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)

Thanks Andy,
the mix was cobbled together with the ideas of a few of the good forum folk.


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Hey Ray,
If there was an original post I think I missed it so I don't know who Alan and Alison is, neither do I know what "MST" means. Plus I can't tell from this post what is BiaB and what is not plus I couldn't understand some of the vocal lines as the lyrics weren't provided. (I know, lots of confusion).

All that said, I really like this. She (or it, if it's a bot) has a great voice, I love the slow blues vibe, it's highly melodic, great bass line, the mix is spot-on and I love those strings.

IMHO this is the best I've heard from you and your team. . . . Great job.


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Ray, this is absolutely fantastic.
Everything is spot on!
Perfect blending of the vocals and guitars.
Great harmonies.
Loved those mellotron strings.
Super mix.

PS - I have that King Crimson album also!


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Hey Ray,
If there was an original post I think I missed it so I don't know who Alan and Alison is, neither do I know what "MST" means. Plus I can't tell from this post what is BiaB and what is not plus I couldn't understand some of the vocal lines as the lyrics weren't provided. (I know, lots of confusion).

All that said, I really like this. She (or it, if it's a bot) has a great voice, I love the slow blues vibe, it's highly melodic, great bass line, the mix is spot-on and I love those strings.

IMHO this is the best I've heard from you and your team. . . . Great job.

Thanks Bass Thumper,
Alan David created the blues instrumental, I wrote a lyric based on it & Alison wrote a melody to fit both & sang it.
All BIAB but for the bass & vocal.
Thank you.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Ray, this is absolutely fantastic.
Everything is spot on!
Perfect blending of the vocals and guitars.
Great harmonies.
Loved those mellotron strings.
Super mix.

PS - I have that King Crimson album also!

Thanks Mario,
I know a lot of people under 50 don't hear Mellotron as anything but a grainy sample but they do spark some magic for KC, Moody Blues etc. fans.
I even have a BluRay 5.1 of the album and one day will own a BluRay player that hooks up to my ancient Yamaha receiver so I can play it. In the meantime the stereo LP & the digital quad will have to do.


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All of it sounds superb. Really great work on this.

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