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Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... DC Ron #780740 11/01/23 03:54 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,120 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,120 North Carolina	Can you write one next time with a guitar that sounds like this???? David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... David Snyder #780742 11/01/23 04:25 PM User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829 DC Ron OP Expert
OP DC Ron Expert Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829	Originally Posted by David Snyder Can you write one next time with a guitar that sounds like this???? Hmmm. Such a great song, and the guitars are sublime. The tremolo would be easy enough to add to the FX chain. But don't think there's a Johnny Marr guitar RealTrack in BiaB. He definitely has his own style and a distinctive way of layering guitars. Will have to ponder this a bit. THANKS for the suggestion, as devious as it is...Ha! DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... DC Ron #780746 11/01/23 05:14 PM User Showcase
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,120 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,120 North Carolina	You should google this song sometime and how many tricks he used to get THAT sound. It was more hardcore than Jimmy Page. Like he had four vibrato amps going at the same time, in different rooms, with one in a cardbox box, I think, and a few different delays, or something crazy like that. It is insane what he did. But, it is one of the the most classic openings of all time. https://www.guitarworld.com/features/the-secrets-behind-johnny-marrs-tone-on-the-smiths-how-soon-is-now David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... David Snyder #780756 11/02/23 12:26 AM User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829 DC Ron OP Expert
OP DC Ron Expert Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829	Originally Posted by David Snyder You should google this song sometime and how many tricks he used to get THAT sound. It was more hardcore than Jimmy Page. Like he had four vibrato amps going at the same time, in different rooms, with one in a cardbox box, I think, and a few different delays, or something crazy like that. It is insane what he did. But, it is one of the the most classic openings of all time. https://www.guitarworld.com/features/the-secrets-behind-johnny-marrs-tone-on-the-smiths-how-soon-is-now That's an interesting Guitar World article, and love the producer's somewhat peeved corrections. The cascading tremolo effect might be fun to emulate. And maybe the howling electric slide. The trick would be sounding 1/10 as cool without being derivative of this very iconic song. Something to think about. THANKS for the suggestion, and the reminder that the big boys have a few more tricks up their sleeve than BiaB. Ha! DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... DC Ron #781409 11/07/23 07:08 AM User Showcase
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,742 Edmonton, Ab, Canada Scott C Veteran
Scott C Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,742 Edmonton, Ab, Canada	Really cool song. Loved the drums and bass lines. So was mixed really well. Super vocal and lyric. Well done Scott Collingwood https://soundcloud.com/scottt709 https://soundcloud.com/spiritlevel-ca https://www.youtube.com/@SpiritLevel-ge3hm/

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... DC Ron #781453 11/07/23 11:44 AM User Showcase
Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 5,318 United States Torrey Bliss Veteran
Torrey Bliss Veteran Joined: Jul 2015 Posts: 5,318 United States	DC Ron, A tight rockin' sound! Guitars are wonderful and the vocalist gave a super performance! Mix sounds pretty good to me! The repeating Bg Vox are effective! Thanks, T

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... Torrey Bliss #781513 11/07/23 04:26 PM User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829 DC Ron OP Expert
OP DC Ron Expert Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829	Originally Posted by Scott C Really cool song. Loved the drums and bass lines. So was mixed really well. Super vocal and lyric. Well done Scott, thanks for the listen! I don't always get it right, but if I get the drums and bass in the right place up front, everything else can be tailored to fit. I can confirm the lyrics and vocals are top notch, since they are not mine. Ha! Originally Posted by Torrey Bliss DC Ron, A tight rockin' sound! Guitars are wonderful and the vocalist gave a super performance! Mix sounds pretty good to me! The repeating Bg Vox are effective! Thanks, T Torrey, glad you like it! I compose these arrangements on guitar before porting them over to BiaB. But most of them keep a guitar-centric flavor. The opening is a mono BiaB track panned left with a 1/16 delay panned right. It sounds cool in small doses for these staccato stabs. The other guitars have a nice bouncy play off each other and are panned hard left and right. The outro is done the old fashion way. Kinda. The repeated BGVs are another example of the "save a little for the end" philosophy discussed in a recent Songwriting topic. It's there (and not earlier) for building a more dynamic arrangement. FWIW, on this song it wasn't even my idea. That was a vocalist improvisation, though I was on it like a chicken on a June bug. (This is Google-able. Ha!) Glad you liked it! DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... DC Ron #781649 11/08/23 12:08 PM User Showcase
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,057 Pembrokeshire vicarn Veteran
vicarn Veteran Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,057 Pembrokeshire	Hi DC. This races along nicely. When I first read the lyrics I thought it was going to be slow and sombre. Nice surprise. I agree with Ray that the lead vocal is a tad loud Vic

Re: Are You Still Here? A ghost story... vicarn #781684 11/08/23 02:23 PM User Showcase
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829 DC Ron OP Expert
OP DC Ron Expert Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,829	Originally Posted by vicarn Hi DC. This races along nicely. When I first read the lyrics I thought it was going to be slow and sombre. Nice surprise. I agree with Ray that the lead vocal is a tad loud Vic Vic, thanks for the listen and comments. I'm conflicted about reading lyrics before listening, though I usually can't resist. Glad you were pleasantly surprised just the same! This song is an example of what I think of as a "sad song sung happy". Many of the lyrics I get are dark, and I would get bored making them all minor key dirges. So would listeners. Gotcha on the overloud vocals. There are some techniques I've used before to head this off but I've gotten slack with them of late. Back to work then! Ha!! DC Ron BiaB Audiophile Presonus Studio One StudioCat DAW dual screen Presonus Faderport 16 Too many guitars (is that a thing?)

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