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Pochopil som stop definície „G“, „G.“, „G..“, „G...“, „G,G.“, „G..,D..“, „G..g“ a podobne. Ale funguje to správne očividne iba v 4/4 takte, čo je problém lebo hromada skladieb je písaná v 2/4 a mala by v ňom aj správne ostať a nie je správne ich meniť na 4/4 takt. Ak teda definujem 2/4 takt tak napríklad |G |C.. |G |D | sa zastaví na údere na C, ale už nezačne hrať na nasledujúcom takte na G, ale až o takt neskôr na D ako by robil v 4/4. Ako to zabezpečím v 2/4 takte ? Ide to vôbec, alebo proste musím použiť 4/4 ? Hľadal som ale nikde som o tom nič nenašiel. Obr. riadok 1 = 4/4, riadok 2 = 2/4 (nefunguje), riadok 3 to isté (2/4), ale zapísaný ako 4/4 na doby už funguje čo nie je riešenie 2/4. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26372&filename=otazka02 stop time 2_4 takt.jpg)
Last edited by JaBr; 12/12/23 01:49 PM.
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Jen malý dotaz zkoušel jsi to i ve skladbě, kde je použit jen 2/4 tak v předznamenání? A provádíš v nastavení taktu změnu stylu, který je definován pro 2/4 nebo 3/4 rytmus v předznamenání, jak Ti nedávno někdo psal ?
Ve své MAC verzi jsem žádné styly s 2/4 nenašel a někde se popisovalo jak se ze 4/4 dá vygenerovat uživatelksý styl na 2/4. Potom by se asi dal nadefinovat nový substyl C vedle A a B, který by byl např. 3/4 nebo 2/4 rytmu a potom by se to mohlo podařit. Osobně bych za sebe asi vždy použil 4/4 ale rozumím, že to cítíš jinak, přiznám, že i když hrajeme český BLUEGRASS tak to nikdy nepíšu 2/4. Ale zkusím ještě hledat co vše udělat by to šlo.
Ve 4) kapitole píšou, že když je taktů míň než 4/4 tak by ty nepoužité doby 3a4 měly být šedé
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Áno. Ten problém so stoptime som prvý krát postrehol práve v skladbe definovanej celej ako 2/4. To čo som ti poslal bol iba demáč na porovnaie ako sa to chová v časti 4/4 a v časti 2/4 pri rovnakom počte taktov a akordov. V 2/4 to proste ignoruje takt s definovaným akordom a hrá to ako keby to bol 4/4 čiže počíta 4 doby (2+2) a nie 2 doby v čom je väčšina BG vecí písaná. Proste |C |C | je pre neho |C | a šmitec. Ak dáš |C..|C | tak ten druhý takt proste nezahrá.
Väčšine tých čo hrajú je jedno či 2/4 či 4/4 či 2/2, či C či ako. Ale ono to nie je jedno. Je rozdiel či basa v jednom takte zahrá dve doby, alebo 4 stvrťové. A to nevravím ak tam máš vložený 5/4 alebo vsunutý 1/4 (back step). A jednu skladbu si ani neviem predstaviť zapísať lebo banjo v nej v jednej časti hrá 5/4 a gitara 4/4. Našťastie ju nepotrebujem zapísať do BIaB :-)
Mnohé sa dá spraiť v 4/4, ale opäť ma to míli keď prepisujem takty z 2/4-kovej skladby do 4/4. A aj v orientácii, v taktoch. V notách je jeden takt G, potom ďalší C a ďalší D+G na pólky. Je to jasné a tu to je v 4/4 potom jeden poltakt G, jeden poltakt C a druhý takt jedna polka rozdelená na D a G a zvyšok ostáva G, čo mi proste nesedí s osnovou a ani stempom. Odhliadnúc od toho že to v 2/4 proste nehrá ako má.
Konce skoro všetky sú potom 1x4/4, 1x2/4 a 1x1/4 + záver dlhý akord aby to sedelo s najčastejším záverom skladieb. V osnove v 2/4 to krásne zapíšeš bez nejakých zmien v taktovaní.
Našiel som v bluegrasse nejaký jeden štýl čo ma polovičné doby a teda je to ako 2/4. Ale zvukovo je o ničom.
Uvidíme aká bude 2024 ale osobne pochybujem že tieto veci zmenia tak aby to 100% sedelo aj s pravidlami ktoré platia v hudbe a zápise.
Last edited by JaBr; 12/14/23 06:18 AM.
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