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Funkifized #801305 02/22/24 04:13 PM
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You want to use a Cut Time Samba style at about 220 bpm.

Try one of the following styles:
LTNBRAZL
SambaFst
SALTITO

Mute all other instruments except for Bass and Drums.

You may have to experiment (like I had to).

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Here is another sample using LTNBRAZL style.
(The melody was only step entered from your screen capture, so it lacks the required nuances of a real performance)



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My chords don't play in tempo with the notes. Seems like the chords play early.




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Originally Posted by Funkifized
My chords don't play in tempo with the notes. Seems like the chords play early.
How did you enter the notes? Was this through the notation editor, or from a live keyboard recording? If it was through step entry, well, yes, that's exactly what I would expect. If it was through step entry it will be rigid and without human nuances. That's outside of the control of the program, except for trying something like the menu option Melody > Edit Melody Track > Quantize, Time Adjust > Humanize Melody menu.

You could perhaps also select the notes in the piano-roll editor and drag them early.

I don't think you'll ever get step time entry to sound realistic. You have to record your own.


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I just don't think that this is human feel problem. The chords are half a beat to a full beat in front of the timing. Beat one should be beat one, no? This is step entry. I'm not a keyboardist. Step entry is not the problem.

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I think what is important to understand, is that BiaB doesn't really support any time signature at all. It has that matrix with either 3 or for 'slots' in each cell. Each slot can be a beat, more than one beat, or a fraction of the beat, depending on the style.

I've made one cell two 6/8 bars, a half 6/8 bar, two cut time bars, one cut time bar, 3 fifths of a 5/4 bar followed but the remaining 2 fifths in the next cell, and so on.

Once you get past he each numbered cell must equal one bar of music, it opens up enormous possibilities in BiaB.

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Originally Posted by Notes Norton
I think what is important to understand, is that BiaB doesn't really support any time signature at all. It has that matrix with either 3 or for 'slots' in each cell. Each slot can be a beat, more than one beat, or a fraction of the beat, depending on the style.

I've made one cell two 6/8 bars, a half 6/8 bar, two cut time bars, one cut time bar, 3 fifths of a 5/4 bar followed but the remaining 2 fifths in the next cell, and so on.

Once you get past he each numbered cell must equal one bar of music, it opens up enormous possibilities in BiaB.

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Well, all I know is that the playback of these cut time samba grooves is a half beat/full beat early. They play earlier than the visual, and the step-entry method, which I've paid for, is on the beat, but the rhythm section is not.


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What are you using for your MIDI synth? (I didn't read the whole thread completely)

I hesitate to mention this, because it would seem you must have done this a log time ago, but it could just be that your RealTracks and MIDI synth playpack are out of sync. BIAB has an adjustment for this. Go to Options, Preferences, Audio. You will see settings to delay the audio in milliseconds. You can also run the Soft Synth Latency Adjust (button) and adjust the timing of what plays (both audio and MIDI) until it syncs up.

This adjustment can sometimes need tweaking if your choice of audio driver change, such as from ASIO to WAS.

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Also, I didn't see an answer to AudioTrack's question in which he showed you notation and asked if that was correct. In the first measure, is there a quarter note followed by eight notes, or an eighth followed by sixteenths? BIAB did add the ability to handle some limited cut time signature notation in the last year. It was at the request of Bobflatpicker for Bluegrass, and me for samba.


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Yes, the notation is the same as what I'm using, from the lead sheet. 8th notes because it's in cut time. The Samba styles are using MIDI, except for Real Drums.

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