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Originally Posted by jpettit
Gordon, you had specific detailed issues. Are you sure those are all documented with Simon?
I think so; though I may try it again in case I made any mistakes ... I had tried things with a couple of files, but I think the file I sent exhibits all I can presently remember. This was a notable number of problems, but there may well be others I haven't found.

I must also say that opening/importing MusicXML open things up to all sorts of snags in all sorts of places, not necessarily BIAB, though I tried opening it with Sibelius and it seemed very close to the original.

The combination of my very gradually improving depression issues and the frustration do now sometimes make it difficult for me to do these tests.

I'll definitely be interested in Simon's findings.

Gordon.


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The previously mentioned issue with changing time signatures (bug ID 4658) will be fixed in an upcoming build that I'm currently testing.

As well, thanks to Gordon's file, I've identified a number of issues:

Originally Posted by Gordon Scott, via email
With the default two-bar offset BiaB tries to do cut-time in quarter-notes, not half notes. With a more suitable 1-bar offset it does 4/4 (OK) but has the anacrucis left justified.
Reported with bug id 4664 and 4665.

Originally Posted by Gordon Scott, via email
It fails to recognise several Majors.
Will be fixed in an upcoming build (bug id 2916).

Originally Posted by Gordon Scott, via email
It sometimes drops the first chord in bars. (IMHO It fails where there are too many chords per bar, but I guess that's life).
Reported with bug id 4667.

Originally Posted by Gordon Scott, via email
It may not recognise the Signe on bar one. It doesn't recognise first and second ending (maybe that's an expected limitation). It doesn't appear to recognise the D.S. al Coda (ditto). I'm not sure whether it recognises/handles the Coda.
Reported with bug id 4666.

Originally Posted by Gordon Scott
I must also say that opening/importing MusicXML open things up to all sorts of snags in all sorts of places, not necessarily BIAB, though I tried opening it with Sibelius and it seemed very close to the original.
That certainly is the case - as much as MusicXML is supposed to be a universal format, every program handles things differently. This makes it incredibly hard to achieve accurate and predictable results (for all software, not just BIAB).

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The combination of my very gradually improving depression issues and the frustration do now sometimes make it difficult for me to do these tests.
I know the feeling. I hope things improve for you.


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Originally Posted by Simon - PG Music
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I must also say that opening/importing MusicXML open things up to all sorts of snags in all sorts of places, not necessarily BIAB, though I tried opening it with Sibelius and it seemed very close to the original.
That certainly is the case - as much as MusicXML is supposed to be a universal format, every program handles things differently. This makes it incredibly hard to achieve accurate and predictable results (for all software, not just BIAB).
Indeed ... definitely not just BIAB. The problem with universal formats is they try to do everything for everyone, so they can be fiendishly complex and sometimes the users just handle what they need and ignore the rest.

MIDI files are quite complex enough; wrap that in another standard and it gets tough. It sounds like like a standard format should be easy, but it most certainly is not.

Thanks for confirming those. What's frustrating is that I've reported all but one of them in the past, but heard nothing more and the bugs remain.


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Originally Posted by Gordon Scott
What's frustrating is that I've reported all but one of them in the past, but heard nothing more and the bugs remain.

This is definitely the change that I most want to see occurring.


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Originally Posted by Gordon Scott
What's frustrating is that I've reported all but one of them in the past, but heard nothing more and the bugs remain.

This is definitely the change that I most want to see occurring.
Me too, that's why I'm here grin


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Originally Posted by Simon - PG Music
Originally Posted by AudioTrack
Originally Posted by Gordon Scott
What's frustrating is that I've reported all but one of them in the past, but heard nothing more and the bugs remain.

This is definitely the change that I most want to see occurring.
Me too, that's why I'm here grin
It's definitely encouraging that the things I reported have bug numbers. smile


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