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Suddenly problem running DXplug64.exe when launcing lexicon reverb and all the other effects.
I have windows 10 and can still run DX32 but lexicon needs 64
I´ve changed Asio driver settings, put RB back to factory setting and made reboot ...
Does anybody have the same problem
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I have never had a 64bit DX plugin work in RB natively.
I am pretty sure DX is only 32 bit in RB .. I lost a decent tuning plugin due to this..
Doesn't Lexicon have VST versions? They would have a much better chance of success.
Also, was JBridge involved previously? Could that be part of the problem/solution?
Just spitballing here ..
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The PG plugins like PG Reverb are 64-bit DX (not VST) and should work with DXPlug64.exe
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Jeff: The menu doesn’t open like it does in the 32 . I just get this error message. So no PG reverb either.
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So the dialog doesn't even launch? What error message? Screenshot? Thanks.
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Hi Jeff. Thanks for answering . It starts getting into the processing window VERY short, it disappears and then I get this message: ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27655&filename=prtscr.png)
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I reinstalled everything. Didn´t help.
I don´t know how to get on.
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What version of RB are you running?
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Hi Jeff
The very latest version. I have solved it yesterday.
I copy from BB thread (to Noel):
...... I went to Microsoft web page and downloaded" DXwebsetup".
I then tried to put the DXplug64. exe into the RB library and renamed the oldest so they couldnt get called.
At first it didnt help, but after lot of reload of BB and RB it suddenly worked again.
I felt I had just solved it by doing things I dont even where aware of.
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Hi Now Im back to the same problem again unfortunately. Any help are appreciated ! Suddenly problem running DXplug64.exe when launcing lexicon reverb and all the other effects.
I have windows 10 and can still run DX32 but lexicon needs 64
I´ve changed Asio driver settings, put RB back to factory setting and made reboot ...
Does anybody have the same problem
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stratos.
note...what follows might not help and are just shots in the dark...
and just some things to ponder.
...how much memory does your pc have ??
...with 64 bit plugins i understand plugin developers have a larger memory space that can be addressed...which brings me to ask...
...useing a utility do you have a handle on amount of memory and cpu resources used on your pc solely by the lexicon plug in ??
one thing ive found out over the years useing fancy reverb plugins instead of the pg dx fx is that often they use lots of pc resources compared to pg native dx. which is why i largely use pg dx fx as they are resource efficient.
also ive developed little tricks useing different combos of the pg plugins to get the desired result. in summary ...yes the fancy big studio plugins can be wonderfull...but the downside is they can consume ooodles of pc resources.
if you doubt me use a daw that monitors plugin resource useage like reaper. just load up the plugin in say reaper and reaps will give you indication of resource useage. another way is what i do on my new mini pc...it comes with a utility that monitors pc resources.
thus i view it before and after i use the plugin and see if the new plugin im testing might use up too much resources .
...are you on the net when doing music production and/or have lots of other non music apps running in the background consuming lots of resources ?? any windows updates ??
personally i use just pg dx fx plugins.
fyi as an experiment i decided to use only pg dx plugin fx in all the songs in my sig. and had thankfully lots of nice comments from 'normal music consumers'...thus confirming to me one can do songs useing only pg fx plugins and chaining of plug in tricks.
for example in rb what i do often is useing rb duplicate track feature i might have two or more tracks with different pg fx settings.
lots of fun...lol.
as i said just shots in the dark.
ps...dunno if this might help diagnose re dx.
in windows search dxdiag.exe a win utility...it should report any dx probs.
hth...
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Thanks Muso
It has been working, and suddenly stopped, but
I´ll try what you suggested :-)
I tried the dxdiag.exe search, but it said it didn´t need update
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stratos.
some questions...
1...is there a trial of the lexi verbs ? so i can try it out here with rb ?? and report back ?? we used to use the outboard lexi outboard hardware in studios.
2...im not knocking lexi verbs but there are a ton of great even free verbs out there if you google something like...'best free low cpu reverb windows plugin' eg im just reading about convology xt with nearly 3000 settlngs...boggles my mind. even shows a pic of lexi verb graphic. . there are loads of good free verbs if you google.
what i do is run tests as to pc resource useage before i use any verb in production. ..a big challenge with verbs is finding good ones that dont consume lots of cpu....which is why ive developed various tricks useing the pg verb and echo chorus low resource useage dx plugins.stratos try experimenting with useing both together and their settings on same or different tracks.
also what i do is duplicate the track and then put pg verb on one track and pg echo chorus on the other and blend settings till i get what i want.
3...did you actually run dxdiag ?? if all ok it reports 'no problem' .
its a tabbed dialog...here it reports no problem.
4....only jeff y can comment on this but in the rb folder is a text file starting with p and a carat. What is it jeff ?? it displays info here fine....im just curious.
ps how much memory does your pc have ??
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Muso:
Yes I did run the test. No problems an up to date.
What I found about my PC, (dont know if thats CPU:
16 GB ram
1000 Gb(ssd)
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stratos.
cpu is in ghz. model number of your processor might be usefull too.
ok...it might be usefull to post a pic of win task manager ...performance tab please.
also as i said a link to a trial of lexi that doesnt require my personal details please.
please also give me the year/version of your lexi plugin so i can look up system requirements to run it.
cos there are various versions it seems of lexi.
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stratos.
read my previous post first.
i found the demo of lexi verb...it seems it needs ilok technology ??
or are you running a different version ??
please confirm you are running ilok.
If you are..go to gearspace.com where loads of studios hang out big and small re ilok info.
i dont use ilok. So csnt try demo.
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Hi Muso
Yes ILOK for sure, so no demo.
Ill get back if I can answer your other Q´s
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stratos...
1..i need to know re your pc...
in rb menu action>>>test audio performance please run this and tell the number of tracks reported.
im over 200 here...what is your result.
2..heres something i would like you to try and i would be surprised if you disliked the effects results.
just a couple of my tricks with pg plugins.
...record a solo track eg vocals....on track 19 <<< ....keep 19 dry.
...in rb please duplicate the dry track 19 to track 20. and add pg reverb plugin.
...AGAIN duplicate the track 19 to track 21. BUT this time add pg echo chorus plugin.
...on pg verb and echo chorus are various controls.
...ensure track 19 is higher in level than 20 or 21 tracks.
...NOW experiment on tracks 20 and 21 with the following...
.....each plugins settings and dry//effect settings.
.....panning if you want that eg 19 centre and 20 and 21 different pans.
.....the levels of the effected tracks 20 and 21...
in essence just test various approaches.
there is no ilok needed with above.
tell me if your happy with the results. if you want more 'effect' just add more wet etc etc.
just now here i got lovely results experimenting.
the songs in my sig used only pg plugins.
3...another approach.if your not happy with above.
on the net youll find free lexi impulse responses (IR's) you can load into a IR loader plugin.
just google for both 'free lexi impulse responses' and 'free IR loader plugin'.
i dont need such however. but many use such.
4...another approach is to test a free reverb plugin eg VALHALLA SUPERMASSIVE.. there is a vst 64 bit version....see you tube for demo of supermassive.
which i read good things about. but i havent tested out. the market is awash with very nice verb
plugins with no ilok needed....just google 'free reverb plugin'. ...lots of results.
remember your useing rb 64 bit.
NOTE FOR points 3 and 4 above lots of info also on youtube ie you can listen to lots of demos re the above.
thats what i do. but frankly i always return to the pg plugins.
hth and get back to me re the first track count item as it gives me an indicator what your pc is capable of.
happiness.
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stratos. ok dont underestimate the following free verb plugins... also check on you tube sound demos. https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/free-reverb-pluginsremember you need plugin for 64 bit host rb. now im off to test vallhalla supermassive verb in rb did you try my duplicate trick above ?? with pg plugs ?? hth om
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stratos..
ok have i got a treat for you ...
i went to the kvr link i posted in my last post and downloaded
2 free reverbs....no iloks.
....Orii River. verb and
....Valhalla Supermassive.verb.
both worked great in rb 64 bit.
and just too many settings to list.
if you cant do a great song with those and pg dx you wont with anything. note both above have a load of presets that can be changed.
note supermassive is bigger than orii river cos they are 2 different verbs.
i still also love the pg fx also.
install was instant and a breeze.
i just in rb plugin dialog scanned ny vst plugin folder and painless install....instant.
it was about time i tested verbs so im gonna see which verbs work good in rb 64 from the kvr site this week...im greedy...lmao.
And the plus is no ilok needed. i doubt the man in the street would notice any diff from the freebies and the pay verbs...its important you change wet dry to your taste and other settings....use the duplivate trick i mentioned up thread.
then one track dry one track with supermassive and one track orii river...
then have loads of fun trying all the settings.
hth.
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Thanks for all the help .
Actually I have Valhalla (maybe 64?)demo, so Ill try that tommorrow (europe time)
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stratos... 1...fyi...in a previous life lol...i recorded in studios with very high end outboard reverbs etc etc. am.i correct that you might be intetested in libraries of impulse responses ir's re the old verbs etc etc ?? if so there are lots of free ir libs on the net...just google... 'name of verb outboard and free ir's'...but maybe you know this. on gearspace.com are various threads on ir's. 2...i have started a thread in tips forum re verbs that work in 64 bit hosts like rb.... so far no probs in rb. when i download a plugin might have various options...i make sure i select the win vst 64 bit ...version. which as ive had no problems in rb..leads me to ask what plugins arent working for you in rb ?? just lexi ?? any other plugins youve tried with problems instantiating in rb 64 ?? could it be a ilok situation ?? once again gearspace hss various threads on iloks. the only other things i can think of assuming you are installing plugins that are vst 64 bit host capable eg for rb are maybe some other apps are consuming pc resources. it would help to know what brand and model of pc you are useing for music production..cos im baffled why so far any plugin ive tried in rb has worked. mind you i dont use jbridge so as to use older vst 32 plugins. assuming you have jbridge...do any vst 32 plugins work in rb 64 ?? i dunno how much the above helps you. i WILL make one suggestion to try out AIRWINDOW plugins in rb 64.. eg verbity 2 if not done so far. in fact all the verbs so far have impressed me. also all low pc resources. here is the testing thread ie verbs and rb 64. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=813558#Post813558ps..im trying to get a complete idea of your pc...is the pc on the net ?? happiness. om
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I got the lexicon mpx-i vst free whe i brought a presonus interface. i think it might now be a freebie available from the following site https://lexiconpro.com/MPX-i/register?locale=en-USit has some lovely presets and the vocal plate is now my go-to plugin for vocals EDIT - sorry just looked aain and the page i sent you needs a code entered so its not free - but its a great plugin.........
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Bob.
thanks ill check it out anyway...used lexi in studios....and other big name outboard in the past....but the dsp programming of the freebie plugins is getting sooo good these days...lots of talented dsp programmers. the freebie plugins are often rivalling the paid ones.
and ir's of old gear are good also often.
do yourself a favor and read up on the net user reviews on free airwindows plugins...also you tube demos. Very low footprint ...simple controls but lots to like. see comments on gearspace.com ..
ill say one thing...i dunno why some people 'c**p'' over rb.
it baffles me...
long before this thread started. im wondering if people have rb set up properly and/or the plugin. as there are many versions of some plugs ya gotta be carefull picking the right vst version...
also id like a buck...lol...for every time ive helped someone who was cursing at their daw cos a certain plug in wasnt working....then i look at their rig and find theyre trying to run a fancy shmancy plugin needing lots of pc cpu and other resources on grannys old clunky pc that has terrible slow cpu speed . sorts like trying to fit 50 people in a car...lol....so the old clunky pc cant handle the workload.
of course then the daw gets slammed instead of the real culprit....the old pc.
any music app ya gotta put in some graft and use the right pc instead of some clunker,...hence why another tip in tips forum re useing the right pc for music production.in hope it helps people.
theres no excuse for useing an old clunker as new pc's are cheap these days eg my new ryzen pc. And i saw other day a beast of a off lease hp xeon pc
includeing 64 gigs ram for a few hundred bucks.these are used in big studios.
fyi every carefully selected single vst for 64 bit daw hosts ive tried is working great in rb.
so i started a series of tips in tips forum re nice reverb plugins to try n help rb users. gonna add to it over time mate with other fx and instruments etc.
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Hi all.
Just to be clear:
I cant come into the 64 dx on RB, no matter what program !
It says problem running G: \Realband\ DX plug64
So its not about the plug ins
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stratos.
im confused now.
are you saying you cant load a dx plugin in rb ??
do the native pg dx p!ugins like pg reverb load ok via the plugin
dialog ?
OR are you trying to load a non pg dx p!ugin ?...if so what is it ??
or is this a vst plugin your trying to plug in.??
this week i have tested many plugins that are vst that work in 64 bit
hosts like rb.....all worked...see the ones i tested in rb in the tips forum.
lets take this one step at a time...cos im confused...as follows...
1..if your trying to load a dx plugin...tell me if the pg echo chorus works....it works here....HOWEVER....
2...if your trying to load a 64 bit vst...try one of the ones i know works in rb of the many in my tips thread...eg oldskoolverb.
tell me if you have any probs with either or both of 1 and 2...above.
if you DO it means we will have to look at your pc cos dx p!ugins and
64 bit vst's work here.
please report back....also i still need to know the make and model of your pc..
and also why g directory ??...what does this mean ??
when you set up bb ...how did you install ??
i personally just hang the pg ultrapak off usb and do a minimal install to c drive.
how did you install the pg apps and content. ??
note from the forums ive seen some probs occur if non standard installs.
do yku have the shipped pg hard drive ? or not ??
get back to me..
happiness..
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Are the other programs looking for G: \Realband\ DX plug64 in the correct location?
Or did the G: drive change letters or something?
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rharv...thanks for stepping in.
spot on thats what i was trying to figure out...why g ??
drive letter change ??...mucked up things ??
STRATOS...IMPORTANT.
GO TO RB PREFERENCES UNDER SONG GENERATION TAB PATHS WHAT DRIVE LETTER SHOWS ?? G ??
please post back....the drive letter.
see if you agree on this as that dxplug64 is i figured out a pg app...
right ?? maybe on install things were not installed properly..?
i always do a minimal installt to c drive and hang the ultrapak off
usb direct...works a charm.
stratos when you frst installed pg apps and content do your remember the drive
letter you pointed at to use ??
keep rocking
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I've been following this thread and see one point of confusion concerning 64 bit plugins. Not all 64 bit plugins are the same. DX and VST plugins are not interchangeable. The DX plugin and VST plugin specifications were developed by two well known software companies, Microsoft and Steinburg. DX is a Microsoft specification more commonly known as Direct X. Direct X was first developed to support audio and video in games, not the audio community. Very few DX audio only plugins have been developed and no DX plugins have been recently developed as far as I'm aware. Few music application developers support the DX plugin specification; but PG Music does. Steinburg developed the VST plugin specification. The VST plugin specification was widely accepted in the audio community and is supported in most music applications. PG Music products support VST2 but not VST3. Because PG Music products support both DX and VST2 specifications it is easy to treat them as interchangeable. But when troubleshooting a DX issue the first thing I would look for is what DX versions are available. If your PC doesn't have the right version of DirectX installed your application might not work properly. PG Music support should be able to tell you what DX version you need. +++ HERE +++ is a Microsoft Support link that details how to find what version of Direct X your operating system has access to.
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jim...
excellent points but upthread i think he said he had run dxdiag ?
if one does deep dives on the net one will see this whole issue
relates to a user trying to run old 32 bit plugins on new windows 64 bit. rb isnt alone in this...see comments on the net re same prob on other daws.
eg dx.
for above reasons i dont bother running old plugins that are 32 bit.
regarding o!d 32 bit dx plugins there is a possibility to run old dx plugins on 64 bit if one googles craig anderton xlutop utility.
but ive never tried it.
its all a plot to make us all rebuy plugins...lol.
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stratos...
i see no dx version of the lexi on lexi products page or o!der dx version anywhere.
so please tell us all how old your lexi plugin is and its product identifier
as there are various lexi products.
all i see on the lexi site is lexicon vst and no dx version so i remain baffled until you provide info about your lexi product version and product identifier.
is your lexi p!ugin actually vst ???
i notice also various companies offer lexi plugins...eg uaudio.
happiness.
om
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Muso: As I wrote. It has nothing to do with Lex. It just dont open the menu to any 64 dxi effects at all , it closes immidiately.
The 32 is no problem.
Thanks for all the suggestion. A lot to go through :-)
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stratos which plug in are you trying to load...
i'll test it here if its a trial where i dont have to state loads of personal info.
WHAT PLUGIN ??
ALSO IN RB PREFERENCES IN SONG GENERATION TAB YOU DIDNT TELL ME
WHAT DRIVE LETTER SHOWS !! G ?? OR SOMETHING ELSE...
thanks.
best
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Yes G drive to all
In RB "audio effect menu" I tried to open 64bit/VST/DirectX audio plugins
It opens in 2 sec and no plugins at all shows, window then close down with error message
I then opened RB menu window, found VST/DX plugins configuration where I scanned and loaded <VST> MPXNativeReverb into the
window with 3 effect options
After that when I try 64bit/VST/DirectX audio plugins , still nothing shows
I have a DXdiag text file, but cant attach it here
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stratos...
lets take this one carefull step at a time...cos i have to diagnose whats happening there..
so bear with me....ie patience please...dx test first then vst.
A...pg dx fx test.
1..right click over a track for looong menu and go to audio effects...do you see a long menu of fx ??
if so ...
2...import some audio on an rb track....eg track 19....you see waveform right ?
if so...
3...click on fx button for track 19...and directx/vst plugin window pops up ...right ??
if so...
4...go to the first slot that says none...and click on it...
DOES A LIST OF ALL PG PLUGINS APPEAR ??...AND DO YOU SEE AT BOTTOM ADD
VST PLUGIN ??...
if so...
5...what fx items are listed in the menu ??...detail them for me...what plugins are listed ??
get back to me.
ps since you have installed rb have you moved any directories around ?
note...every single dx and vst plugin ive tested this week has come up first time in rb....not one problem....and ive tested many.
best
om
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/17/24 07:12 AM.
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Hi Muso and All
Thanks for every suggestions. You are the best.
I found a way to overcome the problem:
I now go to "VST/DX plugins configuration" and load <VST> MPXNativeReverb into the window with the 3 effect options.
Now I can get to the Lexicon sound via FX ( blue icon). So instead of record reverb to the track imidiately, I now render and merge the audio and vst/dxi track to a wave file.
Voila . Im happy !
Last edited by stratos; 06/18/24 12:48 AM. Reason: solved
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stratos.
thanks.
i just want to clarify...your librsry of plugins.
when you click on the fx button on a track...and the dx vst window pops up ...and you click on none...post back a pic or list your plugins...
and tell me if...at bottom of the plugin list you see add vst plugin ??
i think we had a bit of miscommunication as we are in different countries...btw years back i was in vocal music group exchanges and we went all over europe. denmark is lovely.
i wasnt aware how you wanted to work with mpx...
heres some added tips....
1..there are some wonderfull free alternatives to paid verbs..
see my rb verbs tips in tips forum....for exampld verbs that have small size dll'x and dont grab lots of pc resources.
2..i dont use products with iloks because its just another thing to worry about and maintain...i dont want the headaches...also i dont like be. controlled in this fashion. if you notice pg product security isnt invasive...pg keep it simple...and fair to the user...while at the same time protecting themselves...without making the use of iloks. a reason why i got into pg apps years ago.
3...do youself a favor and go thru the kvr audio database of free plugins...many have won awards...also visit musicradar.com and learn about the 80 plugins.
4...read up onrevdrb and othdr ir's which emulate the old outboard units.
5...dont necessarily buy a plugin because the marketing blurb say gold or p!atinum hit xyz was done with this. cos there are many reasons why a song goes
big in the world....includeing inventiveness of the studio engineers.
you should be able to do a hit song usring just pg plugins if used in crafty and carefull ways....all the songs in my sig used only pg plugins and ive had no complaints...only likes from normal music listeners.
just trying to save you money mate.
give my love to denmark...i had fun there...
happinexx.
om
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Hi Muso
Thanks for all tips. I´ll get to them.
For now Im quite satisfied with my Mplex solution in RB.
Thanks for the kind words of Denmark. We love our country for all the good things, too
Best to you
Stratos
Last edited by stratos; 06/24/24 01:51 AM.
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