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A small, but very important option for a DAW.' #810510 05/16/24 12:03 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa musicmountain7 OP Enthusiast
OP musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Small change big difference? It would be I guess an easy task for developers to offer an option to have the Mixer Horizontal. Volume faders goes Up and Down and the Panning Left & Right, and it's the Standard in all Consoles. Best Regards to the Contributors and readers of this forum and many thanks to All the Team of BiaB.' Stelios Panos www.djangoinabox.com

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #810524 05/16/24 04:46 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 26,366 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	You’re right, that is more common. In the specific case of BIAB, now that we have many more tracks possible, it makes more sense to put them horizontally to take advantage of the monitor orientation. +1 BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #810529 05/16/24 05:29 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,409 Melbourne, Australia	Another vote of support. It is definitely more standard. +1 BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #810531 05/16/24 06:06 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,863 Hamlin NY	+1 Have you ever noticed there are no lines to a bathroom at a water park? 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' MarioD #810559 05/17/24 05:08 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,059	+1 my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb.)

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' AudioTrack #810587 05/17/24 02:02 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,162 Hampshire, UK Gordon Scott Veteran
Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,162 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Another vote of support. It is definitely more standard. As an aside, that's in no small part because our eyes are also more atuned to seeing vertical changes than horizontal, presumably a natural evolution for scanning the horizon. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2024 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' Gordon Scott #810632 05/18/24 01:23 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Volume goes Up and Down in the real life and in a Mixer should be the same, Panning goes Left and Right. And I suppose that it is not a big thing to program.' Little things that can have enormous impact? Warm Regards.' Stelios P.

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #810657 05/18/24 05:48 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,409 Melbourne, Australia	Quote Volume goes Up and Down in the real life and in a Mixer should be the same, Panning goes Left and Right. Exactly. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #810660 05/18/24 06:22 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' shlind #824135 09/28/24 02:36 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Is Santa this year gonna bring us this kind of faders orientation? Warm Regards.’

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #824153 09/28/24 06:09 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,059	one thought... the track pans in various daws i find not long enough for precision particularly for us vision impaired. a!tho i gave a plus 1 maybe an option might be offered ? maybe under the track details box in bb and rb on left hand side two long throw faders ..one for volume and one for pan ? how about a pop up on a track that stays up while the user is adjusting and testing pan and vol ? then hidden again ? this would allow a nice sizeable graphic display for us vision impaired ? even tho ive had great surgeons improve my sight i still find myself squinting at various daw graphic displays in all music apps. just an idea. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 09/28/24 06:13 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb.)

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' justanoldmuso #824167 09/28/24 08:38 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,162 Hampshire, UK Gordon Scott Veteran
Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,162 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso one thought... the track pans in various daws i find not long enough for precision particularly for us vision impaired. Often the rotary controls are better as one clicks, holds and moves, usually vertically, over a larger range. The visibility is still not great, though. I suspect they could be magnified whilst in use, but I presume the specifiers/designers/coders don't realise the potential benefit of that. Many controls in, e.g., DAWs allow one to type in a value, though that's far from ideal. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2024 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' Gordon Scott #824233 09/29/24 01:33 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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OP musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Hi, My request for Christmas and New Year it’s only about vertical direction for the Volume faders and horizontal for the Pan, like 99% of the Pro Mixers. The photo is a simple example that I have roughly made in photoshop with ingredients from BB Mixer..! Djangoinabox Stay Vibrantly Tuned.’

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' musicmountain7 #824244 09/29/24 04:45 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,409 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,409 Melbourne, Australia	You're absolutely right. Volume: Up / Down Balance: Left / Right It couldn't be a more obvious suggestion. RealBand does this now? BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' justanoldmuso #824246 09/29/24 05:29 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,863 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso one thought... the track pans in various daws i find not long enough for precision particularly for us vision impaired. ............................. om om, I like the way Studio One Pro handles this situation. Clicking on the track's pan opens a window where you can type in your setting, i.e. R15, L5, etc. Maybe PGM could incorporate such a system? Have you ever noticed there are no lines to a bathroom at a water park? 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' MarioD #824284 09/29/24 01:03 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,059	Gordon and Mario. my comments... 1..ive tried dials find them 'fiddly'. for example the only daw i'm still experimenting with is mtstudio..out of all i tested...due to its nice small footprint. only negative is the use of various dials. 2..i'm wondering if for us vision impaired each daw track have two buttons on each track...P for PAN and V for volume. a user clicks on either and a nice big graphic pops up on screen one can change in real time and hear the results like i used to in studios useing real audio mixer hardware. 3..yes some daws one can enter a specific value for pan or vol but i find this interrupts workflow testing out various settings...ie not real time. eg rb does this and reaps. 4..the problem i would have with the op's mixer graphic is i would be 'squinting' at the faders....so...my eyes get tired. ive found myself squinting a lot over the years at various daw mixing screens in daws.sometimes even tho the vol faders have nice long travels the pans are often short.one reason i like reaps v2 is (i dont use its mixer) i can see things pretty reasonably.cept the pan graphic is not very wide compared to the volume. same likkle prob with rb. happiness. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 09/29/24 01:05 PM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb.)

Re: A small, but very important option for a DAW.' AudioTrack #824298 09/29/24 06:37 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,409 Melbourne, Australia	One issue with Left / Right sliders is the real estate required. With multiple tracks this can add-up. There are programmable workarounds though. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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