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Improved DAW integration #811867 05/31/24 06:09 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 47 Germany Roland S OP Enthusiast
OP Roland S Enthusiast Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 47 Germany	The BB standalone version (bbw64.exe) offers almost everything I need, but whenever using the VST3 plugin, the pain starts. Functionality is limited and the audio tracks generated for the same .sgu are different to the standalone. Either the plugin should provide the same functionality as the standalone or there should be a possibility to sync the standalone with the transport, positioning and the tempo of the DAW. Either way would be fine for me, but I couldn't figure out yet, how to achieve that. At the end I have to bring the generated BB tracks and my own recordings together in one song in my DAW. I would not mind having some small limitations, like a constant tempo and time measure for a song,but I need room for permanent monitoring of the results and repeated refinement of the tracks and the arrangement as a whole. Something like the tracks window of bbw.exe for the plugin could also be a step in the right direction. Definitely better than moving the rendered tracks to the DAW and cutting and replacing them from there. Some kind of ARA integration might also be a solution. BiaB2023 Plus, Win11, AMD 6-core, 32GByte RAM, RME Fireface UFX, Samplitude ProX7, REAPER 6, Studio ne 5, Melodyne Studio, Toontrack SD3, iZotope MP4, NI Komplete 12, Korg Collection, etc.

Re: Improved DAW integration Roland S #811879 05/31/24 07:13 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,999 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,999 Melbourne, Australia	Quote but whenever using the VST3 plugin, the pain starts. I understand that full and proper VST3 support is coming. Stay tuned. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Improved DAW integration Roland S #811914 05/31/24 03:33 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651 musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651	Originally Posted by Roland S The BB standalone version (bbw64.exe) offers almost everything I need, but whenever using the VST3 plugin, the pain starts. ... You have REAPER 6 listed in your apps Working In Biab & Reaper Simultaneously and Instantly Advanced Mode of Working with Biab https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Improved DAW integration Roland S #811944 05/31/24 10:33 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651 musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651	Originally Posted by Roland S ..or there should be a possibility to sync the standalone with the transport, positioning and the tempo of the DAW. You also have ReWire_VST_DEMO.zip load the RewireVST into Biab set it to REAPER in the Rewire list. There also a GUI that will work with them ReWire Band In A Box with Reaper You can use both the above together BB24-Rewire-Reaper.mp4 https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Improved DAW integration musocity #812059 06/02/24 04:02 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 47 Germany Roland S OP Enthusiast
OP Roland S Enthusiast Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 47 Germany	Dear Musocity, sole reason why using REAPER only occasionally is, that I use Samplitide meanwhile for more than 30 years, having more than 100 projects in work. There is no way to open them in REAPER or to save them easily in a REAPER project format. It would be just too much work to move them all to another DAW. That's why I still stay with Samplitude. It does almost everything I need from a DAW, and am used to it. Look and feel and behavior are pretty straight forward, a bit like in the times of analog mixing desks, similar to REAPER. Other DAWs like Cubase or StudioOne may offer more functionality, but they appear a bit confusing to me. Kind Regards Roland BiaB2023 Plus, Win11, AMD 6-core, 32GByte RAM, RME Fireface UFX, Samplitude ProX7, REAPER 6, Studio ne 5, Melodyne Studio, Toontrack SD3, iZotope MP4, NI Komplete 12, Korg Collection, etc.

Re: Improved DAW integration Roland S #812079 06/02/24 07:42 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651 musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,651	I have been trying to get PG to fix the BiabVST so it will open the same frozen sections in the SGU in the VST as the standalone, also play the source files direct without having to render them first with BBW4, BUT it just takes so long that I gave up on it like many others have. https://stash.reaper.fm/u/ReaTrak (Scripts for Biab Reaper) Open SGU in Reaper Instantly

Re: Improved DAW integration musocity #812300 06/04/24 04:12 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 47 Germany Roland S OP Enthusiast
OP Roland S Enthusiast Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 47 Germany	It would already help a lot, if the plugin would reuse the files of a .sgu that have previously been rendered with the standalone, unless they are not explicitly rendered again by the plugin. I really don't understand why this should be so difficult. The respective files of the standalone already exist somewhere on disk and even the filenames of the tracks should be known by the plugin. Obviously, after making changes using the pugin, this would be a different story. BiaB2023 Plus, Win11, AMD 6-core, 32GByte RAM, RME Fireface UFX, Samplitude ProX7, REAPER 6, Studio ne 5, Melodyne Studio, Toontrack SD3, iZotope MP4, NI Komplete 12, Korg Collection, etc.

Re: Improved DAW integration Roland S #812377 06/04/24 01:54 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,655 PeterGannon PG Music Staff
PeterGannon PG Music Staff Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,655	Yes, plugin opening frozen files is planned, and long overdue. Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.

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