Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Thanks Noel, I'll look at that, although the speed situation seem to be ok now.
Cheers
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Ok Noel, I tried that and the Stopping at random places still occurs. It seems it does it mostly when RT's are present. Don't know what else to do. You guys have been tremendous. Thanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,140
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,140 |
cb..
shots in the dark...
1...could you post the bb song file somewhere ...so rest of us can test it. 2..and please note resolving problems is often step by step detective work....so please be patient. 3..please also see my tips in tips forum re useing an existing pc for music production and see if anything might twig you re your system. note the various optimisation tips and links. 4..for starters please post back details of your system..and a pic of task manager showing memory useage and cpu useage....while running bb. 5..in addition what pg pak do you have ?? ultrapak ?? do you run off the for example upak connected via usb ?? or did you do a full install from the pg pak....or minimal install ?? 6..one thing i would test re the stops is...IF you in fact did a install.to your pc instead i would suggest running a test with pg pak drive connected via usb and see if stops go away running direct from the extenal pg drive....note all my work is done useing external connected pg drive and minimal install...never had a problem.just run a test. 7..are you connected to the net while doing music production ?? i never am...cos ive been burnt in the past. see my tips to save retyping. 8..wha make of sound device do you use ?? 9..i ensure that win and bb and the sound device are set to 44.1 16 bit...check this on your pc....and sound device. also does your sound device have a on screen user alp... if so what is the buffer system ??
the more info you can give the better otherwise people trying to help you are often flying blind.
happinesd.
om 🇨🇦🇨🇦 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/11/24 03:15 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400 |
Mike,
Is the song an up tempo one with a number of Realtracks? Sometimes fast songs used to catch up with the regeneration process on older computers and playback paused while regeneration caught up. With this in mind, one other thing to try is...
(1) right click on the chordsheet (2) select Song Settings (3) activate, "This song has playback problems, disable fast generation" (it's the second last option in the right-hand column) (4) regenerate the song
--Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Hi Noel, yes I've done all that and no cigar. Not sure what to do.
Cheers
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400 |
Mike,
Close down BIAB. Now go to the /bb folder and double-click on bbw.exe. This will start the 32-bit version of BIAB. (The 64-bit version is started using bbw64.exe.) When the 32-bit version is ready to go, load in a song and see if it plays.
Also, how is your disk space going? That could cause issues when storage for temporary files is needed. Have the temporary files that Windows creates been allowed to build up at all?
--Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Hi Noel, sorry I just saw this message. I'll try that. I think that my storage space is ok.
Thanks
Mike B.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Hi Noel, no matter which one I run, 32 or 64, still do it. is frustrating because I have not done anything different that I'm aware of to cause this, it was fine just a week or so ago. I'll check Oldmusso tips. Thanks to all
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400 |
Mike,
Just checking... when you first generate the song, do all the Realtracks fully generate? You will be able to see if they do by using the new "Tracks View".
--Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Well.. sometimes might go thru the whole song the first time without a problem, but, sometimes it stop playing before finishing.
Mike B.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400 |
Well.. sometimes might go thru the whole song the first time without a problem, but, sometimes it stop playing before finishing.
Mike B. Hi Mike, Does this mean that when you generate a song and you are watching the tracks get generated in the new "Tracks View", sometimes the tracks don't finish generating? --Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,520
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,520 |
Pete, in your first post you said this:
“ Close it and then open it again then the cursor rushes back to that spot “
Does “it” mean close the song and reload, or close BIAB and reload?
Wild hunch: did you assemble this song using any individual RealTracks that are set to a different time base (double-time etc.)?
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Hi Noel, no, I have not done that. The only time I watched the tracks being generated it so happens that the whole song played ok, but my question is; lets say that the song stopped but the tracks generated fine, what would that means? Interesting, I'll report back on this
Mike B.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Hi Matt, I meant to close the song and when reload it the "rushing" happens. And no mostly happens with any song even from the style pick.
Mike B.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
Hi Noel, I did the "song settings" advice an no joy, however i discovered that even tough it stopped at some point before finishing, it generated the real tracks and drums for the whole song, however, I could not play it back. On another note, I'm sorry to put you all thru this because it has to be frustrating for you all too. I appreciate it immensely!!
Mike B.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 19,400 |
Mike,
Your problem really has me flummoxed now. That BIAB should stop playback at random places and then, when the song is reloaded, resumes playback from the place at which it stopped is something I've never come across before. While it's possible that playback may be affected by something like an intense antivirus check, as far as I'm aware, BIAB does not store playback-resume information, so when the song is reloaded, I have no idea how BIAB takes you back to the spot that the break occurred. This sounds like there is some other program involved that is causing this.
Have you loaded or started using any new software recently?
Also... have you tried using different audio drivers? Whenever I have problems with BIAB, I always try the three available audio drivers ASIO, WAS and MME. Usually, I run on MME as that is the friendliest of divers for BIAB with most systems.
Lastly... do you only run one instance of BIAB at a time or do you have multiple instances open?
--Noel
Last edited by Noel96; 06/15/24 02:56 AM. Reason: added the "Also..." and the "Lastly..."
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,140
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 3,140 |
mike.
upthread i ssked for info on your recording pc rig. its very difficult to help without this info... eg a pic of active tasks on your pc when your problems occur. ie a pic of windows task manager... essentially the rest of us are guessing.without info from you.
i agree with noel i suspect another task running on your pc is locking out biab. eg are you on the net while running biab....?? i use a seperate pc for the net so there is no possibility of biab being locked out by a net activity or task... so please post back the requested info mate...its important so people can help you...otherwise we all are grabbing at straws and flying blind. please also read my tips in tips forum re useing any pc for music production... and run the utility in point 1...latency monitor which reports the suitability of a pc for music production....also lots of tips re optimising a pc for music production.
happiness.
om 🇨🇦🇨🇦. 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/15/24 02:57 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,997
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,997 |
................................. While it's possible that playback may be affected by something like an intense antivirus check, as far as I'm aware, BIAB does not store playback-resume information, so when the song is reloaded, I have no idea how BIAB takes you back to the spot that the break occurred. This sounds like there is some other program involved that is causing this.
...............................................
--Noel A few years ago I had problems with Defender interfering with BiaB. I don't remember exactly what the problem was but when I excluded the entire BB folder from Defender scanning the problem went away and has not returned. CCleaner or any other program that checks files prior or during their movement can interfere also. Have you done a full anti-virus scan? Have you done an anti-malware scan? Have you DL RKill? Or Adwcleaner? All programs are free or have free versions. If I have a problem I run CCleaner, RKill, Adwcleaner, Anti-Malwarebytes, and Windows Security in that order.
Unclear if the pianist is a total beginner or a professional jazz player?
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 312
Journeyman
|
Journeyman
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 312 |
Hi Noel, I did the "song settings" advice an no joy, however i discovered that even tough it stopped at some point before finishing, it generated the real tracks and drums for the whole song, however, I could not play it back. On another note, I'm sorry to put you all thru this because it has to be frustrating for you all too. I appreciate it immensely!!
Mike B. Could you give us the specs of your computer? You might have to upgrade your computer to a more powerful system in order to fix your problem.
A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,143 |
No, I have not run a malware scan or virus yet, I will in awhile. here are some of the specs:
Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 22H2 (build 19045.4529) Install Language: English (United States) System Locale: English (United States) Installed: 6/13/2022 1:41:58 PM Servicing Branch: Current Branch (CB) Boot Mode: UEFI (Secure Boot likely not supported by this UEFI) System Model Hewlett-Packard p6823w System Serial Number: MXX12109N3 Asset Tag: MXX12109N3 Enclosure Type: Desktop Pr 3.00 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X4 960T 512 kilobyte primary memory cache 2 megabyte secondary memory cache 6 megabyte tertiary memory cache 64-bit ready Multi-core (4 total) Not hyper-threaded 2.02 Terabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 554.48 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
hp DVD RW AD-7251H5 SATA CdRom Device [Optical drive]
Generic- Compact Flash USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3 Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 5 Generic- SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2 Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4 SPCC Solid State Disk (1.02 TB) -- drive 0, s/n 139307220D3C00353560, rev SBFMKA.3, SMART Status: Healthy WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 [Hard drive] (1.00 TB) -- drive 1, s/n WD-WMC6Y0PA4PMV, rev 01.01A01, SMART Status: Health
Now, these are the same conditions like it was before I started to have any problems
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows® Today!
If you’ve already purchased Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®, great news—a new update is now available! This update introduces a handy new feature: a vertical cursor in the Tracks window that shows the current location across all tracks, and more.
Discover everything included in this free update and download it now at https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1124
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Boot Camp: The AI Lyrics Generator
With Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows®, we've introduced an exciting new feature: the AI Lyrics Generator! In this video, Tobin guides you step-by-step on how to make the most of this new tool.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Boot Camp: The AI Lyrics Generator video.
Check out the forum post for more information.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using VST3 Plugins
Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows® now includes support for VST3 plugins, bringing even more creative possibilities to your music production. Join Simon as he guides you through the process in this easy-to-follow demonstration!
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using VST3 Plugins
Join the conversation on our forum.
Video: Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows: Using The BB Stem Splitter!
In this video, Tobin provides a crash course on using the new BB Stem Splitter feature included in Band-in-a-Box 2025® for Windows®. During this process he also uses the Audio Chord Wizard (ACW) and the new Equalize Tempo feature.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows®: Using the BB Stem Splitter
Check out the forum post for some optional Tips & Tricks!
Congrats to Misha (Rustyspoon)…downloaded/installed a full Audiophile 2025!
Breaking News!
We’re thrilled to announce that Rustyspoon has made PG history as the very first person to successfully complete the download and install of the full Band-in-a-Box 2025 Windows Audiophile Edition (with FLAC files)—a whopping 610GB of data!
A big shoutout to Rustyspoon for stepping up to be our test "elf!"
Thank you for your support, Rustyspoon!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows Videos
With the launch of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows, we're adding new videos to our YouTube channel. We'll also share them here once they are published so you can easily find all the Band-in-a-Box® 2025 and new Add-on videos in one place!
Whether it's a summary of the new features, demonstrations of the 202 new RealTracks, new XPro Styles PAK 8, or Xtra Styles PAKs 18, information on the 2025 49-PAK, or detailed tutorials for other Band-in-a-Box® 2025 features, we have you covered!
Reference this forum post for One-Stop Shopping of our Band-in-a-Box® 2025 Videos - we will be updating this post as more videos are added!
Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Windows is here, packed with major new features and an incredible collection of available new content! This includes 202 RealTracks (in Sets 449-467), plus 20 bonus Unreleased RealTracks in the 2025 49-PAK. There are new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 4, two new sets of “RealDrums Stems,” XPro Styles PAK 8, Xtra Styles PAK 19, and more!
Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 with savings of up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special—available until December 31, 2024! Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
2025 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some incredible Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2025 packages, but for even more Add-ons (including 20 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.
If you have any questions, feel free to connect with us directly—we’re here to help!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums65
Topics83,466
Posts758,225
Members39,126
|
Most Online3,932 Nov 19th, 2024
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|