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Re: Audio import tempo change. Noel96 #820765 08/25/24 03:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Hi, Don't forget to uncheck the Conform to Playback Tempo, (right Click on the Track and go to Track Settings)! djangoinabox.com

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #820766 08/25/24 04:12 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,104 Wauconda	Noel was very helpful and processed my mp3 to a certain extent. So that made be take another attempt at this. Immediatley started throwing errors ... the minute I open the mp3 then followed by Edit Audio. How do you guy have the patience to continue working in this program!! All musical creativity ends when I move back into BIAB. I have lost all confidence in BIAB. I had enough.... no mas! Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Screenshot 2024-08-25 070525.png (102.06 KB, 226 downloads) Screenshot 2024-08-25 070553.png (40.57 KB, 225 downloads) BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Audio import tempo change. DrDan #820770 08/25/24 05:16 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,270	Dan. lets have a bash at this. (please be patient as i'm watching uk soccer on nbc today if its on.) what are you trying to do ? takeing an old song with varying tempo and trying to generate new pg content in sync with it ? i'm trying to do this currently as i have loads of masters done in commercial studios. its not trivial stuff imho. it looks to me that from your graphics that on mp3 import to bb your getting some sort of error and bb wants to generate a log file ? (note i'm vision impaired somewhat.) if you post the mp3 somewhere the rest of us can import it into bb and our daws and see if we get any exception errors. question...this mp3...forgetting bb for a moment does this mp3 play ok in vanilla win media player ? i just imported a mp3 into bb here and it worked fine. as did wma. i did get a chord chart generated in acw but it wasnt accurate. i dont expect it to be...nature of the tech beast. i suspect its a very difficult coding job for any programmer to be fair. so of course had to fix up the chord chart. it DID however get some chords accurate. to be fair show me any daw that can do exactly what you want ie chord interpretation/tempo mapping from audio (mot midi) cos imho to be fair as i said imho its darn difficult at the coding level. i would love to test such a daw...as ive tested many recently and i didnt find a way to do this....its a devil of a job matching new content to old masters from my experience. you can slam me if you wish...but...imho this tech thats in bb and rb i feel will always not bring perfect results. frankly i'm amazed pg have brought it this far and kudos for that. happiness. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/25/24 05:19 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb.)

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #820774 08/25/24 05:34 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,104 Wauconda	om, I do appreciate your offers to help, but I am afraid I am beyound help. I have had it with BIAB as I prepare to exit this forum (...not with a bang, but with a wimper). The mp3 in question is a Youtube download which I am trying to cover. Noel has already worked with the mp3 and it fully functional and he created an apparent nice tempo map. But I am not looking for a fish dinner. I need to know how to fish. Quote to be fair show me any daw that can do exactly what you want ie chord interpretation/tempo mapping from audio (mot midi) cos imho to be fair as i said imho its darn difficult at the coding level. i would love to test such a daw...as ive tested many recently and i didnt find a way to do this....its a devil of a job matching new content to old masters from my experience. Yes, I agree. Reaper comes darn close and I am certain it will do better when I learn more how to do this in Reaper. So that is where my efforts are going to go moving forward. Concider this my final message to you personnally on my farewell tour. Carry on my friend and keep making music. Dan BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #820786 08/25/24 06:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,104 Wauconda	Just to close the loop. Here is my chords with Noels tempo map. Have to admit, it is pretty tight. Thanks Noel. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Audio import tempo change. DrDan #820788 08/25/24 07:49 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Hi, There is no software that can find accurately the chords from an audio file specially for Jazz, and BB is not an exception.' But if you want to much the tempo of the audio to the BB BPM that's easy to do in BB! If you have issues with audio files dragged into BB check also the name of the file for strange characters or if it's too big, just rename it to something simple.' Regards to all.' Django in a Box

Re: Audio import tempo change. DrDan #820803 08/25/24 11:19 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,584 Australia	Originally Posted by DrDan Immediatley started throwing errors ... the minute I open the mp3 then followed by Edit Audio. How do you guy have the patience to continue working in this program!! All musical creativity ends when I move back into BIAB. I have lost all confidence in BIAB. I had enough.... no mas! Hi Dan, I can repeat this error by doing the following... 1) Open mp3 (not Open Special). 2) Click on Audio Edit. 3) The exception error appears. When I loaded the mp3 yesterday, I used the following steps. 1) Open Special \| Open Audio (I've since discovered that it's okay to use Open here too.) 2) Select the Audio track 3) Click on ACW This works for me without any errors. I have no idea why selecting ACW works fine whereas selecting Audio Edit does not. I'll report this anomaly to the development team. If you can enter into ACW (rather than Audio Edit), I'm happy to explain how I did things so that you can try out my approach. --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Audio import tempo change. Noel96 #820811 08/25/24 12:10 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,270	Noel. this is interesting. no matter which way i load up in bb a mp3 (taken at random).. drag to bb or open or open special ( i normally use special option) i cant replicate. maybe i'm missing something. or i'm a dunce lol. as i'm a reaps user also i would love to know if the same mp3 loads up fine in reaps. (note reaps will tell a user the source properties of an audio file. a good way to find out if there is something funky about a audio file.) Django. i would love to know what stem splitting software you are useing. (if your useing that tech.) because i have lots of songs here done in studios in the past which i would like to update with new pg content. btw..kudos on what you have done re various artists. and your web site. great skills...impressive. happiness. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/25/24 12:15 PM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb.)

Re: Audio import tempo change. justanoldmuso #820815 08/25/24 12:32 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,584 Australia	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso Noel. this is interesting. no matter which way i load up in bb a mp3 (taken at random).. drag to bb or open or open special ( i normally use special option) i cant replicate. maybe i'm missing something. or i'm a dunce lol. as i'm a reaps user also i would love to know if the same mp3 loads up fine in reaps. (note reaps will tell a user the source properties of an audio file. a good way to find out if there is something funky about a audio file.) om Thanks, om. I'll do some more investigating MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #820914 08/26/24 12:28 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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musicmountain7 Enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 69 Djangoa	Hi, I use the UVR (ultimate vocal remover) the name is deceptive it is actually doing the job for all the instruments and it’s free! I use the demucs method and the htdemucs_ft model which you have to download! Thanks.’ Django in a Box

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #820961 08/26/24 10:37 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,584 Australia	Hi Dan, As promised, here is a pdf that explains how I created the tempo map for Unchain My Heart using BIAB's automatic chord wizard. How I Created a Tempo Map for "Unchain My Heart" Using ACW I hope it is useful. --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #821040 08/27/24 01:36 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,664 Kernersville, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,664 Kernersville, NC USA	Noel, Typo in step 3. "To play the audio from any specific location, locate the red cursor at that location my clicking on the audio’s graphic display and pressing the space bar". I suspect the bold word should be by. Page 4 Bar 12 comments "Bar 12 will turn purple after it has been moved to so that its timing is now set by the user. I suspect the bold word should be show. This is an excellent pdf tutorial. While my brother Charlie uses the Audio Chord Wizard all the time, I seldom use the tool. Charlie has no trouble creating a tempo map from an audio file while I have trouble creating a tempo map. I followed your pdf tutorial and was impressed with the results I achieved. Note I was not able to send you a private message. Last edited by Jim Fogle; 08/27/24 01:38 PM. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1125e) RB (Build 4) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Audio import tempo change. musicmountain7 #821047 08/27/24 02:06 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,104 Wauconda	Originally Posted by musicmountain7 Hi, I use the UVR (ultimate vocal remover) the name is deceptive it is actually doing the job for all the instruments and it’s free! I use the demucs method and the htdemucs_ft model which you have to download! Wow, proof that some of these "spleeters" are better than others. This just blew SMP out of the water on an instrument stem. Thanks for the referral. BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Re: Audio import tempo change. Jim Fogle #821050 08/27/24 03:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,584 Australia	Originally Posted by Jim Fogle Noel, Typo in step 3. "To play the audio from any specific location, locate the red cursor at that location my clicking on the audio’s graphic display and pressing the space bar". I suspect the bold word should be by. Page 4 Bar 12 comments "Bar 12 will turn purple after it has been moved to so that its timing is now set by the user. I suspect the bold word should be show. This is an excellent pdf tutorial. While my brother Charlie uses the Audio Chord Wizard all the time, I seldom use the tool. Charlie has no trouble creating a tempo map from an audio file while I have trouble creating a tempo map. I followed your pdf tutorial and was impressed with the results I achieved. Note I was not able to send you a private message. Hi Jim. Thanks for doing some proofreading for me. I greatly appreciate it. I've made the corrections. Even though I had been through the document a few times to try and catch all the errors, I knew that there would be some that I missed. It's always the way! I'm glad it made sense Thanks again, --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #821061 08/27/24 05:41 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,664 Kernersville, NC USA	Noel, Downloaded the corrected pdf. That's a keeper. It's going to save me a lot of grief. Thanks for creating and sharing the tutorial. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1125e) RB (Build 4) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #821086 08/28/24 12:03 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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shlind Journeyman S Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 393	Thanks, very good and useful. Is there a way to change the color scheme for the purple bar lines? They are to dark for me I can't read the dark purple tempo numbers (so they are useless for me). I did not find anything in the preferences.

Re: Audio import tempo change. shlind #821088 08/28/24 12:22 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,584 Australia	Originally Posted by shlind Thanks, very good and useful. Is there a way to change the color scheme for the purple bar lines? They are to dark for me I can't read the dark purple tempo numbers (so they are useless for me). I did not find anything in the preferences. Do you mean like something below? If so, then please read my next post. MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #821089 08/28/24 12:23 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,584 Australia	First... select the options button in the ACW Window. Second... from the dropdown menu, select "ACW baline (user). Third... click on any color in the color spectrum below the dropdown menu. (As you can see, I have selected yellow. This is very comfortable to see.) MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2024 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #821091 08/28/24 12:55 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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shlind Journeyman S Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 393	Yes, thanks very good.

Re: Audio import tempo change. Guitarhacker #823030 09/14/24 08:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,104 Wauconda	So I wanted to close this tread with the final production. I did this project "just for fun" with the intent of leaning more about how to integrate Audio and midi in Reaper. Along the way, I experimented with creating and using a midi map in BIAB to combine with an mp3 track from the web. As you see in this tread big help was given by Noel using the BIAB ACW. Thanks again Noel. Have a listen if you care to. In the end, there is NO BIAB in this final production. Just didn't work for me. But I learned a lot and had fun with the entire arrangement. The alignment of the audio with my midi tracks is not perfect. It is damn hard to do this, even if you have a good midi map. That is the lesson learned. But it should not stop one from having fun. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k-qvAYOjrIq6rkO6E-rOSnF5hpCCWyBs/view?usp=sharing If you want to compare my cover to the Original, you will find it here BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

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