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I know I'd like more emphasis on midi and far more specific Melodists. Also, new instruments like strings or orchestral midis with some brain cells.
Seems like every year we see oodles of new Real Tracks but, to be honest, nothing to excite. Modern day music is in crisis and charts don't mean anything anymore.
Are we going to get something revolutionary this coming year? More of the sam isn't going to cut it this time. surely?
Is Peter thinking AI?
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Every year previously, the company never divulged what would be in the new release, and I suspect that this year will be no different.
I hope Santa has some goodies that you like, but I guess we just have to wait and see.
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"Modern day music is in crisis and charts don't mean anything anymore."
"Is Peter thinking AI?"
I hope BIAB doesn't chase the fool's gold. The fastest road to meaningless charts is AI.
Yes, the AI hype cycle will get you additional eyeballs - and likely sales - in the short term, but someone else will always be able to build a "better" AI mousetrap.
On the other hand, there is and will forever be only one Ron Carter, Brent Mason, etc. It's the ability to use the 100's of lego blocks of top-rate professional musicians to build a great sounding track that makes BIAB distinctive. I strongly recommend that this remains the focus of your product.
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I think there will be "over 50 new features"  Vintage
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Everyone has put forward many good suggestions. But BIAB's response is slow.
The number of times I haven't opened BIAB is decreasing this year. This is my true situation.
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I think there will be "over 50 new features" I understand where you are coming from, but actually, I hope not. I really hope there will be a valuable number of "Genuine Improvements to Existing Features".
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The old interface will finally be scrapped and replaced by a single unblinking eye. The iris can be customized to the color(s) of your choice, but that is the only option in BiaB 2025. The eye is your portal into the new BiaB interface: ChatPGM, powered by AI. This interface will only respond to spoken cues, so a microphone is a new hardware requirement. To generate a song, one has to simply ask for it in plain English (or the language of your choice). BiaB will then generate lyrics, vocals, chord structure, tempo, arrangement and instrument choices, all neatly provided to you as a completed song in seconds. Don't like what you hear? Just tell ChatPGM what you want to change. "More cowbell?" That's a snap! There will of course be iOS and Android apps... I've probably said too much. It's possible some of this stuff won't make the December launch. Or...??? ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=28803&filename=11468400small.png) Image by Freepik
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Ha Ha, DC. Love the ambition, but you and I know: 'It ain't gonna happen'  PS: I like the 'eye portal' concept. Hard to say that that will never happen - maybe one day?
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I think the real point here is that we are offered hundreds of real tracks every year each promising to sound ground breaking. When used in a song they just leave you thinking mmmmmmmm.
I love arranging orchestral backings bur BB doesn't cut it here. The midi side of things is dormant and the melodists need sorting out.
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Well, at this stage, we don't know what we don't know. Maybe there are some amazing track-related things on the horizon. I guess we just have to wait and see.
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I think the real point here is that we are offered hundreds of real tracks every year each promising to sound ground breaking. When used in a song they just leave you thinking mmmmmmmm.
I love arranging orchestral backings bur BB doesn't cut it here. The midi side of things is dormant and the melodists need sorting out.
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I think the real point here is that we are offered hundreds of real tracks every year each promising to sound ground breaking. When used in a song they just leave you thinking mmmmmmmm.
I love arranging orchestral backings bur BB doesn't cut it here. The midi side of things is dormant and the melodists need sorting out.
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The old interface will finally be scrapped and replaced by a single unblinking eye. The iris can be customized to the color(s) of your choice, but that is the only option in BiaB 2025. The eye is your portal into the new BiaB interface: ChatPGM, powered by AI. This interface will only respond to spoken cues, so a microphone is a new hardware requirement. To generate a song, one has to simply ask for it in plain English (or the language of your choice). BiaB will then generate lyrics, vocals, chord structure, tempo, arrangement and instrument choices, all neatly provided to you as a completed song in seconds. Don't like what you hear? Just tell ChatPGM what you want to change. "More cowbell?" That's a snap! There will of course be iOS and Android apps... I've probably said too much. It's possible some of this stuff won't make the December launch. Or...??? Image by Freepik Don,I heard similar rumors! I will add that what does make it probably will not work as advertised right out of the box.
I've accidentally swallowed a load of scrabble pieces. My next trip to the toilet could spell trouble.
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............................. The midi side of things is dormant and the melodists need sorting out.
Mal. I agree. Other companies are leaving BiaB in the dust when it comes to MIDI.
I've accidentally swallowed a load of scrabble pieces. My next trip to the toilet could spell trouble.
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When you only have a hammer, anything looks like a nail.
If I want to use MIDI, I use my DAW. The Possibilities with MIDI offered within are stellar today. Hard to imagine how PG Music could compete here.
If I want "Real Musicians" I use BiaB. This where PG Music has its nice and a unique selling point.
So I have a choice of tools for the task at Hand. And, it is possible to attach parts to get an assembled object that does not appear as if it was hitten hard by a hammer.
It would sure be nice if a "one size fits all" approach would be possible for BiaB, so customer money would solely go to PG Music. But coopeticion is maybe better for us customers.
I see that happen in the music industrie at many levels. Open Standards to allow for Interaction and thus bringing more tools in my toolbox. The BiaB Plug-In is an example for this 1 + 1 = 3 gain we customers get out of that.
Just my two cents.
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definitely more cowbell!
... and Super Midi Tracks.
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When you only have a hammer, anything looks like a nail.
If I want to use MIDI, I use my DAW. The Possibilities with MIDI offered within are stellar today. Hard to imagine how PG Music could compete here.
If I want "Real Musicians" I use BiaB. This where PG Music has its nice and a unique selling point.
So I have a choice of tools for the task at Hand. And, it is possible to attach parts to get an assembled object that does not appear as if it was hitten hard by a hammer.
It would sure be nice if a "one size fits all" approach would be possible for BiaB, so customer money would solely go to PG Music. But coopeticion is maybe better for us customers.
I see that happen in the music industrie at many levels. Open Standards to allow for Interaction and thus bringing more tools in my toolbox. The BiaB Plug-In is an example for this 1 + 1 = 3 gain we customers get out of that.
Just my two cents. I agree 100%! If PGM removed all features unrelated to RealTrack generation such as notation, piano roll, metronome, etc., I would not notice the difference! I use BIAB to generate instrument tracks at a certain tempo in a certain key and then export them centered with NO effects like reverb or panning. Once I get these tracks into my DAW that is where I can mix and add the best fx in the industry. I know some folks use other BIAB features but personally I find so many of those to be distractions and detractions from what BIAB does better than any other software...generate realistic instrument tracks.
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Using 2024. Really don’t need more styles. But, would love a better balance among real tracks and super midi tracks to select from. For example----across most instrument categories, e.g., pianos, organ, pedal steel, fiddles, accordian, harmonica, strings, and others, provide more options of tracks that fit both ev and sw style songs at various tempos. Often, I need a particular sw or ev real track at, say, 75, and cannot find anything for that particular instrument. This may not make sense; but, I know it when I run into it.
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I find no use in adding more styles to BIAB until there is a more effective search concept available and implemented.
I have 10k+ styles which I hardly ever use because I can’t find my way around them and find what I am looking for.
It normally turns out that I am spending several hours in the style picker and then quit without no results.
I normally just pick some very basic or simple style just to have something to do some skeleton work with.
I would rather prefer more midi.
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Every year previously, the company never divulged what would be in the new release, and I suspect that this year will be no different.
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