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MIDI and Automation Display Improvement #826531 10/23/24 10:11 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,234 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack OP Veteran
OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,234 Melbourne, Australia	The Tracks View can show both Audio and MIDI data: The Audio Edit window allows 'Automation' curves to be drawn for both Audio and MIDI data, however, it only displays tracks with Audio. The actual MIDI data is not displayed. It would be an improvement if the actual MIDI data was also shown with the automation lines in the Audio Edit windows, similar to the Tracks View display. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: MIDI and Automation Display Improvement AudioTrack #826545 10/23/24 02:42 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,307 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,307 Winston-Salem, NC USA	In principle I agree but in practice I'm not sure. Looking at the screen shots above are you sure the bar beat timeline across the top of the Audio Edit window is granular enough for a user to accurately volume automate high density midi like you might see on a drum or piano track? Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1113) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: MIDI and Automation Display Improvement Jim Fogle #826557 10/23/24 06:43 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,234 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack OP Veteran
OP AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 19,234 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by Jim Fogle In principle I agree but in practice I'm not sure. Looking at the screen shots above are you sure the bar beat timeline across the top of the Audio Edit window is granular enough for a user to accurately volume automate high density midi like you might see on a drum or piano track? The timeline can be zoomed in / out with the mouse-wheel to any level. Is that the granularity that is the concern? The actual issue is that for MIDI, the volume automation works (thanks Charlie), but the MIDI data is not displayed (like it is in the Tracks View window): Last edited by AudioTrack; 10/23/24 10:22 PM. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: MIDI and Automation Display Improvement AudioTrack #826609 Yesterday at 10:35 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,307 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,307 Winston-Salem, NC USA	+1 for displaying midi data in the Audio Editor window when performing volume automation. Yep, the zoom feature was what I was thinking about. Thanks AudioTrack. Even if track midi data is displayed I'm guessing in practice there may be more hurdles that users would encounter before finding that setting midi volume automation in the Audio Editor window is practical. But this request is a step in the right direction. I'm thinking PG Music likely was not aware midi volume automation can be set in the Audio Editor window until Charlie pointed it out. Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1113) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: MIDI and Automation Display Improvement Jim Fogle #826612 Yesterday at 11:17 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,434 MoultiPass Expert
MoultiPass Expert Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,434	Originellement posté par Jim Fogle ... I'm thinking PG Music likely was not aware midi volume automation can be set in the Audio Editor window until Charlie pointed it out. Seriously? My big discovery personally, was to be able to manage automation in the Master track, (as for midi, no visual) . It was a Great day! And you tell me that PG was not aware? I don't believe it. Biab Audiophile 2024 11.13, Win11

Re: MIDI and Automation Display Improvement AudioTrack #826613 Yesterday at 11:43 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,307 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,307 Winston-Salem, NC USA	MoultiPass, that's just my thought. I've been proven wrong many times and likely will be proven wrong in the future so there is every possibility I'm wrong. Either way, I doubt if my thought is important enough for a PG Music staff member to comment so we will likely not know for sure. Your illustration using Master Track automation makes sense because I believe the Master Track output is audio, not midi data. Midi data is first routed to the audio mixer where each track has synths and effects and then to the Master Track audio output. All of that is guess work because PG Music has not published Band-in-a-Box audio and midi data signal flow diagrams. Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1113) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: MIDI and Automation Display Improvement AudioTrack #826691 11 hours ago Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 2,231 L Lloyd S Veteran
Lloyd S Veteran L Joined: May 2001 Posts: 2,231	+1 from me. Thanks! LLOYD S

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