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So pleased that this is sorted out for you. Profitez de votre fête de la Toussaint. Laissez la musique de côté un instant et participez aux célébrations  Merci ! C'est ce que j'ai fait. J'ai emmené mes 3 chiens faire une promenade d'une heure le long de la plage.
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ok please be aware of the following.
i just ran a test bb set to wasapi and sound interface set to 48k.
then i exported via drag a track and it was 44.1 not 48k.
whereas when i generate in rb and export its 48k from my testing.
this would seem to confirm what simon said.
simon tell me if i'm wrong.
mario is right it doesnt affect all midi projects. but audio is different of course.
anyhoo ive done all i can...happiness to all.
it was an interesting thread.
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Three pages, yieps!! Hard to tell exactly if the question was ever actually answered? Please don't try to tell me how to do it. Just give me a simple Yes or No - can BIAB be set to 48K?
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i just answered in my last post.
according to my tests bb exports in 44.1k....even tho set to 48k.
see simons post a few posts back.
if you want true export to 48k then rb is the tool.
(see my tips in tips section.)
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Three pages, yieps!! Hard to tell exactly if the question was ever actually answered? Please don't try to tell me how to do it. Just give me a simple Yes or No - can BIAB be set to 48K? Sadly it can't be quite that simple. I think the following is an accurate summary. Hopefully if I'm wrong Simon will jump in and say so.
BiaB does not operate at 48kHz, it operates at 44.1kHz.
It will resample to audio files, it will co-operate with 48kHz devices if WAS or MME are used, but not resample if ASIO is used unless the ASIO does not support 44.1kHz, then it also resamples to match the device.Assuming my statements above are accurate, perhaps they could be pinned or added to the FAQ section. Edit: I think JOM's posts appear to suggest that drag-and-drop may also not resample. I haven't tried to prove or disprove that ... an official statement would be good.
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Thanks to Simon and all of the BiaB users who contributed to this conversation. I had ZERO idea that the question I asked would result in this incredible amount of information. The simple solution for me was changing BiaB to WAS.
Thanks again, everyone, and happy All Saints' Day. It's a holiday here in France, so of course the main shopping district, starting 50 meters from my apartment is closed to car traffic and hosting a braderie (sidewalk sale) this weekend. It'll be a human zoo. Just in case you were worrying, you didn't cause a storm of posts with a simple question. The storm was always there because of the sample-rate issue, both with audio devices and also with people wanting to work with other sample rates, e.g., 48kHz, 96kHz and so on. I think it's safe to say that this issue has been around for quite a while and has long been a nuisance.
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i forgot to mention....testing sample rate of a audio file.
to cut through everything just use a feature in some music apps to measure sample rate in an imported file irrespective of what that music app sampling rate is set to.
eg audacity OR upload the audio file to a net site that reports sample rate. (google.).
eg drag a genned audio file from bb to a test dir in windows explorer and then upload to the web sampling rate test site and/or drag into audacity.
(the feature is hidden a bit in audacity...after importing youll see the track and on left hand side some dots.... click those to see sampling rate of imported file.)
Dan or anyone else...just follow above procedure.
it takes little time.
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Yet again a RealBand hijacking.
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To the O/P: RealBand can do somethings that Band-In-A-Box cannot. I don't use Reaper or other similar products, but they can also probably do things that Band-In-A-Box cannot. Thanks to the other contributors for offering alternative solutions when Band-In-A-Box cannot deliver the required outcome. Knowing about alternatives can be very helpful in these situations. That's the great thing about sharing information and experiences in these forums. Good job 
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To the O/P: RealBand can do somethings that Band-In-A-Box cannot. I don't use Reaper or other similar products, but they can also probably do things that Band-In-A-Box cannot. Thanks to the other contributors for offering alternative solutions when Band-In-A-Box cannot deliver the required outcome. Knowing about alternatives can be very helpful in these situations. That's the great thing about sharing information and experiences in these forums. Good job ^^^ +1 I no longer install RealBand since I never used it. I've even uninstalled Reaper after a decade of use. Bitwig Studio and Studio One Pro are more than enough for this amateur home studio geezer. 
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Thanks to Simon and all of the BiaB users who contributed to this conversation. I had ZERO idea that the question I asked would result in this incredible amount of information. The simple solution for me was changing BiaB to WAS. Happy to help! As a general recommendation, I find it best to not use ASIO unless you're recording something - otherwise there is absolutely zero advantage when simply playing back. It will resample to audio files, it will co-operate with 48kHz devices if WAS or MME are used, but not resample if ASIO is used unless the ASIO does not support 44.1kHz, then it also resamples to match the device.[/b] If an ASIO device does not support 44.1khz, in my experience that device is not usable with BB. I do not have such a device to test with though. Otherwise you are correct. Edit: I think JOM's posts appear to suggest that drag-and-drop may also not resample. I haven't tried to prove or disprove that ... an official statement would be good. Dragging and dropping into BB or importing audio will resample it to 44.1khz. Yet again a RealBand hijacking. A little off topic perhaps, but in this case it is a potential solution.
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It will resample to audio files, it will co-operate with 48kHz devices if WAS or MME are used, but not resample if ASIO is used unless the ASIO does not support 44.1kHz, then it also resamples to match the device.[/b] If an ASIO device does not support 44.1khz, in my experience that device is not usable with BB. I do not have such a device to test with though. Otherwise you are correct. Hmm. I suspect few, if any, recent devices do not support multiple rates, so perhaps that's probably an obsolescent feature, though you comment abot "not usable", whilst quite likely correct, is contradicted by the 2024 manual on p14, near the top: Since many ASIO drivers do not support multiple sample rates, Band-in-a-Box has a built-in resampler which lets you play and
record songs that have a different sampling rate than the rate(s) directly supported by your ASIO driver. For example, if the
driver does not support 44.1K sampling rate, but supports 48K, then Band-in-a-Box will use the resampler to convert to 48K
when playing back, and to convert FROM 48K when recording. The Resampler Quality combo lets you choose Fast, Good,
Better, or Best. Fast is the quickest but is the lowest of the four levels of quality. Best is the slowest (uses more CPU time), but
the most transparent and accurate quality. It appears that probably either the program or the manual may want a correction/adjustment.
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It will resample to audio files, it will co-operate with 48kHz devices if WAS or MME are used, but not resample if ASIO is used unless the ASIO does not support 44.1kHz, then it also resamples to match the device.[/b] If an ASIO device does not support 44.1khz, in my experience that device is not usable with BB. I do not have such a device to test with though. Otherwise you are correct. Hmm. I suspect few, if any, recent devices do not support multiple rates, so perhaps that's probably an obsolescent feature, though you comment abot "not usable", whilst quite likely correct, is contradicted by the 2024 manual on p14, near the top: Since many ASIO drivers do not support multiple sample rates, Band-in-a-Box has a built-in resampler which lets you play and
record songs that have a different sampling rate than the rate(s) directly supported by your ASIO driver. For example, if the
driver does not support 44.1K sampling rate, but supports 48K, then Band-in-a-Box will use the resampler to convert to 48K
when playing back, and to convert FROM 48K when recording. The Resampler Quality combo lets you choose Fast, Good,
Better, or Best. Fast is the quickest but is the lowest of the four levels of quality. Best is the slowest (uses more CPU time), but
the most transparent and accurate quality. It appears that probably either the program or the manual may want a correction/adjustment. It may have been specific to devices I tried before - I remember trying with a Behringer interface and an old Mbox with poor results, but that was years ago. I tried just now with my Zoom recorder locked to 48khz and BB did work over ASIO, so perhaps if a device can be locked to a specific sample rate then BB will work - however most ASIO drivers are "smart" and automatically set the requested sample rate, which in the case of BB is 44.1khz.
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