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With the advent of AI generated music, a lot of publishers and sync libraries are obviously concerned about the use of said music in their catalogs since the status for copyright is still very much in dispute. Currently, the consensus is that AI generated music is not copyrightable and since the pubs business model is totally dependent on control of copyright, it's a problem for them to use AI generated music. I've heard other individuals make the comment that you just don't have to tell them if AI was involved in the process. So go ahead and send them your AI generated crap and don't tell them, simply claim it as your own. Ahhhh yes..... But there's just one little problem with that. Digital watermarks. You can Google that topic and you'll find some very interesting papers on the various aspects of watermarking digital compositions. It mostly involves adding a high frequency, low level digital watermark signal to the entire file. It goes start to finish. And it's well above the range of human hearing, and in other cases, below or some combination of both including the DC bias. They're working on making it extremely hard to detect by ear, and impossible to remove without significantly damaging the original recording. It's a given, and both Suno and Udio are using a watermarking algorithm for everything they generate. Using even a small section of the song exposed that watermark to detection by any decoder being used by publishing companies to screen the song as they listen to your submission. Here's one of the smaller stories on the topic with examples of the start of a song on one of the major platforms. People say that the noise is a result of the compression algorithm but the real question is, is that a watermark placed in the coding by the platform? Then of course when you compare the quality of AI to a studio production, what's with all the noise, or lower audio quality in the AI? Is it just artifacts or something else, like the watermark? Have a listen to the samples. https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20220505-audible-watermark-noise-spotifyComments?
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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What they can not prevent you from doing is listening to the AI-generated song and playing it out live note for note. I assume the lyrics can not even be proven in a court of law to have been generated by AI. Is the AI model that you use going to record and save every set of lyrics that it ever generated and save what IP address it was sent to?
I have no idea if AI could generate a truly great song. The three I generated through AI were pretty amazing, but far away from anything I thought was great. They were plausible at best.
I am sure there are a certain number of people who will buy third-rate AI-generated songs, but that will not have much effect on great songcreators.
I see AI as a pretty good, simplistic rhyming dictionary that could give me insight into how a Dylan song was constructed. But I bet you 10 bucks it never considered Dylan Thomas in the equation.
Ai can give me an idea of what a modern country song could sound like but it never drove over to Bakersfield...lol
I don't buy into the idea that AI knows everything.
It is a very useful tool that can be abused just like a knife or a hammer could be used to kill someone. Or a zillion other ways to lie, cheat, and steal. Why would it knot? It learned from us.
The more we try to prevent people from breaking "laws" related to money, the more they will find ways around the issue.
Allez-y doucement...lol
Billy
Why do bagpipe players walk while they play? To get away from the noise
What kind of music should you listen to while fishing? Something catchy!
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